Re: the greatness of rods (not)

[Mark <mk_409@ya...co.uk>]

I'll keep it short and sweet due to the sheer volume of 'planes related 
emails in my inbox but........ON YOUR SIDE Neville! Some of RA's songs are 
ok but others......
  Hmmmmmmm.
   
  Mark J.

Neville Street <nevstreet@ho...com> wrote:
          Sorry folks - now strike me down with fork lightning oh lord of 
music - but I beg to differ about Rodney. Honestly? I know he's a decent 
fella 'n all but this isn't about that. I think his songs added a naff 
dimension to the BAs. There... said it... done... I'll be the Billy 
Nomates and the Xmas gig from now on! 
   
  Apart from Saturation Point and the BAs, who nose dived slightly after 
he left in the early 90s (or whenever it was - glad he's back though), I 
believe John was also playing in a band called Witness. John Langley is up 
there with people like Pete De Freitas from the Bunnymen as all time fab 
drummers. Talk about constants - should be John/Angelo and Gerard.
   
  Neville
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Helm 
  To: blueplanes@st...net 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:42 PM
  Subject: [Blueplanes] the greatness of rods
  

all--

i want to echo what was said about rodney allen.  he's a teriffic 
songwriter 
(his contributions to swagger and beatsongs being my faves), a great 
singer, 
and a lovely guy (did anyone know that rod's sister bev married alex 
lee?).  
to my mind, the line-up can change but 2 constants must remain in order 
for 
it to be the blue aeroplanes: gerard and rodney.

as to the live show--i've seen them too many times to count (but haven't 
seen them since about 1998.  there were some great guys in the band post 
beatsongs, but that line-up was perhaps the best live band i've ever seen. 
 
subsequent versions of the planes weren't able to match that, quite (to my 
mind) and i lost a bit of interest, pining for the 'good old days."

does anyone know what john langely is up to???

-mark  h



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>    4. Re: Bagpipe Music (Drdaeve@ao...com)
>    5. RE: Bagpipe Music (Abi Marchant)
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>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:43 +0100 (BST)
>From: Abi Marchant <abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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>Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that all 
>comes 
>about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to travel unless 
>they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free cucumber sandwiches 
>and 
>tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot or cold).  And beer.
>   Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
>   Abi
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>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 20:39:30 +0000
>From: "Neil Stanley" <stevetreacle@ho...com>
>Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
>To: "Abi Marchant" <blueplanes@st...net>
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>Abi,
>
>Everyone is telling the truth; the Aeros are utterly brilliant live 
>(apart 
>from a horrible gig at the Garage in 98 or 99 - was anyone else there?).  
>The Aeros' albums are  "slow-burners" and will continue to grow on you 
>over 
>time, but seeing them live is breathtaking!
>
>All the other posters seem to have overlooked the contribution of Rodney 
>Allen, so I thought I'd put in a word for the poor love!  His backing 
>vocals (for example on Your Ages - my favourite love song!) really 
>complement Gerard's spoken word, and a highlight of any Aeros album is 
>the 
>Rodney Allen song (or songs).  You are guaranteed three minutes of 
>pathetic, angst-ridden, jingly-jangly indie-pop.  From Beatsongs, "Fun" 
>has 
>to be one of the band's best songs (the acoustic version on the 12-inch 
>single of "Up In A Down World, released God-knows-when is gorgeous!), and 
>why "Different Now" failed to make it onto Swagger remains a great 
>mystery!
>
>I saw Rodney solo (at my Freshers ball in 1989!) and had to endure a 
>whole 
>set of it, which was taking things a bit far (as was the solo album 
>Happysad - how much Billy Bragg had he been listening to?!?), but it was 
>interesting that, although Rodders (who, incidentally, still looks 12 
>years 
>old!) was unable to appear on the last tour, the band still played one of 
>his songs!
>
>
>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:43 +0100From: 
>abi_blue_planes@ya...co.ukSubject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe MusicTo: 
>blueplanes@st...net
>Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that all 
>comes 
>about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to travel unless 
>they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free cucumber sandwiches 
>and 
>tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot or cold).  And beer.
>Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
>Abi
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>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:52:22 +0100
>From: Philip Rush <philip_rush@ye...fsnet.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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>The truth is that Bagpipe Music is a poem by Louis MacNeice.  (Isn't
>it?)
>
>Basically Gerald is what W H Auden would have been if he could have
>been a rock star and if Christopher Isherwood had played the electric
>guitar.
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>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:59:24 EDT
>From: Drdaeve@ao...com
>Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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>Bagpipe Music is also the title of the Art Objects (previous incarnation 
>of
>the BAs) great album from 1980, I think....has the awesome 'Showing Off to
>Impress the Girls' and is as good as anything GL & Co have done  since...
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>Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:33:33 +0100 (BST)
>From: Abi Marchant <abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk>
>Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
>To: The Blue Aeroplanes Mailing List <blueplanes@st...net>
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>Must agree about Your Ages, absolutely love it.  Freshers Ball 1989?  I 
>wish I had been born before I was, to have made the most of them for a 
>longer time.  The Louis MacNeice info has now allowed me to sing along 
>with 
>the actual words rather than just make loud noises that sound a slightly 
>similar (was great singing it in the kitchen without the music where it 
>sounded very strange).  Groovy, rock on.
>   Abi
>
>Neil Stanley <stevetreacle@ho...com> wrote:
>       P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  
>FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Abi,
>
>Everyone is telling the truth; the Aeros are utterly brilliant live 
>(apart 
>from a horrible gig at the Garage in 98 or 99 - was anyone else there?).  
>The Aeros' albums are  "slow-burners" and will continue to grow on you 
>over 
>time, but seeing them live is breathtaking!
>
>All the other posters seem to have overlooked the contribution of Rodney 
>Allen, so I thought I'd put in a word for the poor love!  His backing 
>vocals (for example on Your Ages - my favourite love song!) really 
>complement Gerard's spoken word, and a highlight of any Aeros album is 
>the 
>Rodney Allen song (or songs).  You are guaranteed three minutes of 
>pathetic, angst-ridden, jingly-jangly indie-pop.  From Beatsongs, "Fun" 
>has 
>to be one of the band's best songs (the acoustic version on the 12-inch 
>single of "Up In A Down World, released God-knows-when is gorgeous!), and 
>why "Different Now" failed to make it onto Swagger remains a great 
>mystery!
>
>I saw Rodney solo (at my Freshers ball in 1989!) and had to endure a 
>whole 
>set of it, which was taking things a bit far (as was the solo album 
>Happysad - how much Billy Bragg had he been listening to?!?), but it was 
>interesting that, although Rodders (who, incidentally, still looks 12 
>years 
>old!) was unable to appear on the last tour, the band still played one of 
>his songs!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>   Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:43 +0100
>From: abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk
>Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
>To: blueplanes@st...net
>
>   Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that all 
>comes about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to travel 
>unless 
>they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free cucumber sandwiches 
>and 
>tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot or cold).  And beer.
>   Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
>   Abi
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>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:03:32 +0100
>From: "gordon" <dwilhelmi@ti...co.uk>
>Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
>To: "The Blue Aeroplanes Mailing List" <blueplanes@st...net>
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>   Totally concur with the comment about 'Showing Off To Impress the 
>Girls'.
>   First came across it on the 'Weird Shit' cassette, a live version from 
>before the birth of humanity.
>   Subsequently spent more than one should aquiring the vinyl 45. Not 
> sure 
>if that's the version on 'Bagpipe Music', but for me, bears out Gerards 
>apparent taste for warts an' all recordings, 'cause I don't think the 
>studio version holds a candle to it.
>
>   Gonna put it on, right now.
>
>   G
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>     From: Drdaeve@ao...com
>     To: blueplanes@st...net
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:59 PM
>     Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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>
>     Bagpipe Music is also the title of the Art Objects (previous 
>incarnation of the BAs) great album from 1980, I think....has the awesome 
>'Showing Off to Impress the Girls' and is as good as anything GL & Co 
>have 
>done since...
>
>     DrDx
>
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