Re: the greatness of rods

[Philip Rush <philip_rush@ye...fsnet.co.uk>]

I don't get all the Rod stuff.  It's a bit like being part of an  
alphabet appreciation thread and some of the people are saying they  
don't really like K.
To be honest, I have always found K to be an upstart sort of letter.   
Never really necessary but a nice contrast now and again to C and  
great support, in words like NECK which without K would just sound  
like NEC which is near Birmingham.
Also, K plays a really good guitar.  An Eiphone with a Greek E on the  
top thing.
So, I say, things are as they are.

Secondly, I am never really convinced by the it was great live you  
had to be there argument.  The Aeros are guilty of having produced  
one of the worst and most easily dispensable live albums.  So, it's a  
bit rich of them to suggest that love recordings are where it's at.   
The criteria for a good live performance are not the same as those of  
a good album.
If a new album came with a room full of young women in singlets,  
well, there'd be an imeediate thrill of sorts I guess ,but come  
dinner itme, how much would they eat.  And where would they go when  
you took of the BAs and played the new Dylan or an old album of Irish  
traditional music.
These things need to be borne in mind.

Philip Philippson

Please can we have a new album.  By a band.  Produced.

On 14 Sep 2006, at 14:42, Mark Helm wrote:

> all--
>
> i want to echo what was said about rodney allen.  he's a teriffic  
> songwriter (his contributions to swagger and beatsongs being my  
> faves), a great singer, and a lovely guy (did anyone know that  
> rod's sister bev married alex lee?).  to my mind, the line-up can  
> change but 2 constants must remain in order for it to be the blue  
> aeroplanes: gerard and rodney.
> as to the live show--i've seen them too many times to count (but  
> haven't seen them since about 1998.  there were some great guys in  
> the band post beatsongs, but that line-up was perhaps the best live  
> band i've ever seen.  subsequent versions of the planes weren't  
> able to match that, quite (to my mind) and i lost a bit of  
> interest, pining for the 'good old days."
> does anyone know what john langely is up to???
>
> -mark  h
>
>
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> > From: Abi Marchant <abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> > Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that  
> > all comes about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to  
> > travel unless they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free  
> > cucumber sandwiches and tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot  
> > or cold).  And beer.
> >   Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
> >   Abi
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> > From: "Neil Stanley" <stevetreacle@ho...com>
> > Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> > Abi,
> >
> > Everyone is telling the truth; the Aeros are utterly brilliant  
> > live (apart from a horrible gig at the Garage in 98 or 99 - was  
> > anyone else there?).  The Aeros' albums are  "slow-burners" and  
> > will continue to grow on you over time, but seeing them live is  
> > breathtaking!
> > All the other posters seem to have overlooked the contribution of  
> > Rodney Allen, so I thought I'd put in a word for the poor love!   
> > His backing vocals (for example on Your Ages - my favourite love  
> > song!) really complement Gerard's spoken word, and a highlight of  
> > any Aeros album is the Rodney Allen song (or songs).  You are  
> > guaranteed three minutes of pathetic, angst-ridden, jingly-jangly  
> > indie-pop.  From Beatsongs, "Fun" has to be one of the band's best  
> > songs (the acoustic version on the 12-inch single of "Up In A Down  
> > World, released God-knows-when is gorgeous!), and why "Different  
> > Now" failed to make it onto Swagger remains a great mystery!
> > I saw Rodney solo (at my Freshers ball in 1989!) and had to endure  
> > a whole set of it, which was taking things a bit far (as was the  
> > solo album Happysad - how much Billy Bragg had he been listening  
> > to?!?), but it was interesting that, although Rodders (who,  
> > incidentally, still looks 12 years old!) was unable to appear on  
> > the last tour, the band still played one of his songs!
> >
> > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:43 +0100From:  
> > abi_blue_planes@ya...co.ukSubject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe  
> > MusicTo: blueplanes@st...net
> > Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that  
> > all comes about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to  
> > travel unless they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free  
> > cucumber sandwiches and tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot  
> > or cold).  And beer.
> > Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
> > Abi
> >
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> > From: Philip Rush <philip_rush@ye...fsnet.co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> > The truth is that Bagpipe Music is a poem by Louis MacNeice.  (Isn't
> > it?)
> >
> > Basically Gerald is what W H Auden would have been if he could have
> > been a rock star and if Christopher Isherwood had played the electric
> > guitar.
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> > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 16:59:24 EDT
> > From: Drdaeve@ao...com
> > Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> > Bagpipe Music is also the title of the Art Objects (previous  
> > incarnation of
> > the BAs) great album from 1980, I think....has the awesome  
> > 'Showing Off to
> > Impress the Girls' and is as good as anything GL & Co have done   
> > since...
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> > Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 22:33:33 +0100 (BST)
> > From: Abi Marchant <abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk>
> > Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> > Must agree about Your Ages, absolutely love it.  Freshers Ball  
> > 1989?  I wish I had been born before I was, to have made the most  
> > of them for a longer time.  The Louis MacNeice info has now  
> > allowed me to sing along with the actual words rather than just  
> > make loud noises that sound a slightly similar (was great singing  
> > it in the kitchen without the music where it sounded very  
> > strange).  Groovy, rock on.
> >   Abi
> >
> > Neil Stanley <stevetreacle@ho...com> wrote:
> >       P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body  {  FONT-SIZE:  
> > 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Abi,
> > Everyone is telling the truth; the Aeros are utterly brilliant  
> > live (apart from a horrible gig at the Garage in 98 or 99 - was  
> > anyone else there?).  The Aeros' albums are  "slow-burners" and  
> > will continue to grow on you over time, but seeing them live is  
> > breathtaking!
> > All the other posters seem to have overlooked the contribution of  
> > Rodney Allen, so I thought I'd put in a word for the poor love!   
> > His backing vocals (for example on Your Ages - my favourite love  
> > song!) really complement Gerard's spoken word, and a highlight of  
> > any Aeros album is the Rodney Allen song (or songs).  You are  
> > guaranteed three minutes of pathetic, angst-ridden, jingly-jangly  
> > indie-pop.  From Beatsongs, "Fun" has to be one of the band's best  
> > songs (the acoustic version on the 12-inch single of "Up In A Down  
> > World, released God-knows-when is gorgeous!), and why "Different  
> > Now" failed to make it onto Swagger remains a great mystery!
> > I saw Rodney solo (at my Freshers ball in 1989!) and had to endure  
> > a whole set of it, which was taking things a bit far (as was the  
> > solo album Happysad - how much Billy Bragg had he been listening  
> > to?!?), but it was interesting that, although Rodders (who,  
> > incidentally, still looks 12 years old!) was unable to appear on  
> > the last tour, the band still played one of his songs!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> >   Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2006 21:23:43 +0100
> > From: abi_blue_planes@ya...co.uk
> > Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
> > To: blueplanes@st...net
> >
> >   Thinking the Bristol Christmas gig might be a good start if that  
> > all comes about (here's hoping!).  But yes, definitely willing to  
> > travel unless they're willing to play Skipton in my field.  Free  
> > cucumber sandwiches and tea for all, followed by eccles cakes (hot  
> > or cold).  And beer.
> >   Yeah, they should certainly set a date for Skipton, s'meant to be.
> >   Abi
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> > Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 01:03:32 +0100
> > From: "gordon" <dwilhelmi@ti...co.uk>
> > Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
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> >   Totally concur with the comment about 'Showing Off To Impress  
> > the Girls'.
> >   First came across it on the 'Weird Shit' cassette, a live  
> > version from before the birth of humanity.
> >   Subsequently spent more than one should aquiring the vinyl 45.  
> > Not sure if that's the version on 'Bagpipe Music', but for me,  
> > bears out Gerards apparent taste for warts an' all recordings,  
> > 'cause I don't think the studio version holds a candle to it.
> >   Gonna put it on, right now.
> >
> >   G
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Drdaeve@ao...com
> >     To: blueplanes@st...net
> >     Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:59 PM
> >     Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Bagpipe Music
> >
> >
> >     Bagpipe Music is also the title of the Art Objects (previous  
> > incarnation of the BAs) great album from 1980, I think....has the  
> > awesome 'Showing Off to Impress the Girls' and is as good as  
> > anything GL & Co have done since...
> >     DrDx
> >
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