RE: can't love the Kinks

["Eric Gregory" <egregory@st...com>]

i don't disagree that he & the band weren't a presence....think of all the
shitty bands that did & still continue to sound like them.,..all the cheap
production tricks (quiet verse, pounding chorus) that you still hear on
alternative rock radio today...
that's not my point.

could he write is a subjective & loaded question but sometimes you've
gotta
make those distinctions, especially if yr gonna do something like that
yrself.
i could empathize with alotta what cobain was saying, but who needs to
hear
the guy's diary scribbling set to punk rock crossed with sabbath?

morrison was drawing on alotta influences & trying to place his stake as
an
important voice...as bad as his shit was (& believe me, i'd NEVER defend
his
attempts at "poetry"), he was working in & thru traditions of
countercultural art, expression, etc...
(artaud, the surrealists, dada, experimental film, his godawful
integration
of native american wordspeak, nietzche, etc..)...pretentious yes, but no
more so than the beloved mr. langley's reworkings of works by patchen,
plath
, etc...
in fact, i'd say langley owes a lot to morrison.
& the reason why i'll never own a nirvana record & i have had & still do
own
a few BA recs is cos they're responding to a long deep
tradition....playing
with it, expanding, mimicking, etc...
it sounded like cobain owned 3 records...

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-----Original Message-----
From: Doc [mailto:blueaero@ya...com]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 9:12 AM
To: blueplanes@st...net
Subject: RE: can't love the Kinks


>this is all only relevant if you accept the fact that cobain had as
>much to say or was as meaningful to rock & roll as someone like
>morrison. i say he weren't.

I dunno about that.  First off, "meaningful" is a subjective term.  I
have friends who were in their late teens and early twenties when
"Nevermind" came out.  They raved about the album, as though it spoke
to them directly.  I was in my late twenties at the time and I couldn't
hear what they were raving about, and neither could a lot of people my
age.  It just sounded like a guy mumbling.

And in the US, mid-80's rock was VERY stale.  Anyone remember all the
candy-ass metal bands?  Warrant, Slayer, Poison, blah, blah, blah.
Cobain may not have had the "meaningful" aspect you're talking about in
terms of his lyrics, but bands like Nirvana injected some much needed
energy into pop music.

-Doc

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