Re: A Worrying Development At The Fleece.

[Edoxtator <doc6502@ya...com>]

I can totally believe they "overlooked" noise.  Here in Chicago, the last 
Mayor (Daley) did everything imaginable to shut down small clubs and bars 
in the city-- changing the zoning and noise ordinances was just one of 
their tricks.  Once these small businesses moved out, their buildings went 
to developers for a song.  All for a bit of cash.

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> On May 20, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Gordon.
> 
> Basically the government opened a 3 year window between May 2013 and May 
> 2016 where anyone can apply for prior approval under permitted 
> development rights to "change the use" of any office to residential 
> dwellings. This policy was rushed though as a way to help find a 
> quick-fix to the shortage of new housing (and probably so the government 
> can keep an election promise!) This "prior approval" process can only be 
> turned down due to issues of:
> 
> Land contanimation
> Flood risk
> Highways impact
> 
> It's a massive loophole. I find it unbelievable that they did not 
> include noise pollution as one of the factors which can be taken into 
> consideration. It means local councils have to automatically approve 
> these applications no matter how reasonable and logical the objections 
> unless they are on the basis of one of the 3 areas listed above. Many 
> live music venues are suffering across the UK as a result of this as 
> they generally tend to be in town centres away from houses and flats and 
> near office buildings which are empty in the evenings and at weekends 
> (exactly when the noise starts!). 
> 
> The prior approval for the development of the offices opposite The 
> Fleece was granted in November but now that the full plans have been 
> submitted we have the chance to raise objections.
> 
> I hope this clarifies..
> 
> Chris
> 
>> On 20 May 2014, at 23:29, GORDON WILHELMI <gordon.wilhelmi192@bt...com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Damn, yes, it's a real threat. Those noise complaints would just pour 
>> in.
>> 
>> Inclined to concur with Steve, an objection from a London/Kent address 
>> !?
>> 
>> But...... Planning Applications such as this involving 'Change of Use', 
>> can affect all of us in the long run, and what goes down, or up, in one 
>> area can become a precedent for what goes down in another, so, it being 
>> a ridiculous idea under the circumstances, I'll see if I can enter a 
>> salient Objection.
>> G
>> 
>> From: Steve <bluaero@gm...com>
>> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014, 22:17
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] A Worrying Development At The Fleece.
>> 
>> Wow. That's quite a situation you have brewing over there. I would love 
>> to help, but I'm afraid that anything coming from someone stateside 
>> would probably be given about as much consideration as a facebook post.
>> 
>> If there's any other way I can help, let me know.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 5/20/2014 1:59 PM, Chris Sharp wrote:
>>> Hi again
>>> 
>>> I've had something on my mind for a while which I've decided I need to 
>>> share with you all.
>>> 
>>> The Fleece is currently under threat from a London based property 
>>> development company who have acquired the massive office block right 
>>> outside the front door and have submitted plans to Bristol City 
>>> Council to turn it into about 50 privately owned residential flats. 
>>> Obviously this would be disastrous for the venue if it is approved. I 
>>> have been fighting our corner for the last 6 months and things are now 
>>> coming to a head. There is a link at the end of this email where 
>>> anyone is free to browse the plans for themselves. Members of the 
>>> public are invited to submit their objections by May 21st (tomorrow!). 
>>> My solicitor has advised me against my suggestion of a massive social 
>>> media/facebook campaign as it could do more harm than good with the 
>>> possibility of hundreds of emotionally charged knee-jerk objections 
>>> submitted without reasoned arguments or proper consideration.
>>> 
>>> The reason I have decided to post this here is because you are all 
>>> fans of The Blue Aeroplanes and it's the band who own the venue. 
>>> People who subscribe to this list also come across as an older, more 
>>> intellectual group than the random 20,000 Facebook followers we have 
>>> on the venue's social media network. If any of you have the time to 
>>> read through some of the documents it would be really appreciated if a 
>>> few of you could submit a couple of well reasoned and thoughtfully 
>>> considered objections to these plans on the basis that the development 
>>> opens the way for countless future noise complaints which would 
>>> threaten the existence of a vibrant live music venue which is vital to 
>>> Bristol's cultural development. The Fleece currently has no nearby 
>>> residential dwellings which is why the council has not received a 
>>> single noise complaint against it in the last 10 years. This proposed 
>>> development will put people's bedroom windows 12.5 metres away from 
>>> the stage! I have been advised that the council will take into 
>>> consideration any objection received after the deadline as long as 
>>> they are submitted before the date of the hearing on 29th May.
>>> 
>>> http://planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=N352F8DNGYW00
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Chris Sharp
>>> 
>>> 
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