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Re: A Worrying Development At The Fleece.


  • Subject: Re: A Worrying Development At The Fleece.
  • From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net>
  • Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 23:56:09 +0100

Thanks Gordon.

Basically the government opened a 3 year window between May 2013 and May 
2016 where anyone can apply for prior approval under permitted development 
rights to "change the use" of any office to residential dwellings. This 
policy was rushed though as a way to help find a quick-fix to the shortage 
of new housing (and probably so the government can keep an election 
promise!) This "prior approval" process can only be turned down due to 
issues of:

Land contanimation
Flood risk
Highways impact

It's a massive loophole. I find it unbelievable that they did not include 
noise pollution as one of the factors which can be taken into 
consideration. It means local councils have to automatically approve these 
applications no matter how reasonable and logical the objections unless 
they are on the basis of one of the 3 areas listed above. Many live music 
venues are suffering across the UK as a result of this as they generally 
tend to be in town centres away from houses and flats and near office 
buildings which are empty in the evenings and at weekends (exactly when 
the noise starts!). 

The prior approval for the development of the offices opposite The Fleece 
was granted in November but now that the full plans have been submitted we 
have the chance to raise objections.

I hope this clarifies..

Chris

On 20 May 2014, at 23:29, GORDON WILHELMI <gordon.wilhelmi192@bt...com> 
wrote:

> Damn, yes, it's a real threat. Those noise complaints would just pour in.
> 
> Inclined to concur with Steve, an objection from a London/Kent address !?
> 
> But...... Planning Applications such as this involving 'Change of Use', 
> can affect all of us in the long run, and what goes down, or up, in one 
> area can become a precedent for what goes down in another, so, it being 
> a ridiculous idea under the circumstances, I'll see if I can enter a 
> salient Objection.
> G
> 
> From: Steve <bluaero@gm...com>
> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 20 May 2014, 22:17
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] A Worrying Development At The Fleece.
> 
> Wow. That's quite a situation you have brewing over there. I would love 
> to help, but I'm afraid that anything coming from someone stateside 
> would probably be given about as much consideration as a facebook post.
> 
> If there's any other way I can help, let me know.
> 
> 
> 
> On 5/20/2014 1:59 PM, Chris Sharp wrote:
>> Hi again
>> 
>> I've had something on my mind for a while which I've decided I need to 
>> share with you all.
>> 
>> The Fleece is currently under threat from a London based property 
>> development company who have acquired the massive office block right 
>> outside the front door and have submitted plans to Bristol City Council 
>> to turn it into about 50 privately owned residential flats. Obviously 
>> this would be disastrous for the venue if it is approved. I have been 
>> fighting our corner for the last 6 months and things are now coming to 
>> a head. There is a link at the end of this email where anyone is free 
>> to browse the plans for themselves. Members of the public are invited 
>> to submit their objections by May 21st (tomorrow!). My solicitor has 
>> advised me against my suggestion of a massive social media/facebook 
>> campaign as it could do more harm than good with the possibility of 
>> hundreds of emotionally charged knee-jerk objections submitted without 
>> reasoned arguments or proper consideration.
>> 
>> The reason I have decided to post this here is because you are all fans 
>> of The Blue Aeroplanes and it's the band who own the venue. People who 
>> subscribe to this list also come across as an older, more intellectual 
>> group than the random 20,000 Facebook followers we have on the venue's 
>> social media network. If any of you have the time to read through some 
>> of the documents it would be really appreciated if a few of you could 
>> submit a couple of well reasoned and thoughtfully considered objections 
>> to these plans on the basis that the development opens the way for 
>> countless future noise complaints which would threaten the existence of 
>> a vibrant live music venue which is vital to Bristol's cultural 
>> development. The Fleece currently has no nearby residential dwellings 
>> which is why the council has not received a single noise complaint 
>> against it in the last 10 years. This proposed development will put 
>> people's bedroom windows 12.5 metres away from the stage! I have been 
>> advised that the council will take into consideration any objection 
>> received after the deadline as long as they are submitted before the 
>> date of the hearing on 29th May.
>> 
>> http://planningonline.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=documents&keyVal=N352F8DNGYW00
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Chris Sharp
>> 
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