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Re: BluePlanes Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17


  • Subject: Re: BluePlanes Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
  • From: drdaeve@ao...com
  • Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:06:43 -0400

Friendsloversplanes


I don't really care if the Blue Aeroplanes never release any new material, 
tho' it would be nice - I'm several decades away from getting bored with 
the stuff that's already available.


Chris - you're doing a great job posting to this list


see you there


DrDx





-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Wilhelmi <Gordon.Wilhelmi@ro...org.uk>
To: blueplanes@bl...org <blueplanes@bl...org>
Sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:22
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] BluePlanes Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17


Wholeheartedly concur with just about everything on these threads (I'm a 
glass 
full kind of person).Well made point about Lisa visavis the carping, the 
same 
might apply to Nora some time back.The idiosynchratic nature of the Aeros 
output, and art in general, is possibly the very reason I have followed 
them for 
so long. Who else would issue a song in a format fifteen years out of date 
? 
Can't wait.

Dogbolter ! There's a blast from the past. The guy who started the Firkin 
chain 
way back had come out of one of the major old piss water breweries and 
possibly 
kick started the Real Ale campaign by returning to a traditional format of 
floorboards, on site brewing and live music. The Fox and Firkin at 
Ladywell was 
amongst the first, I believe, and featured a pianist on Saturday nights 
rousing 
the punters to singalongs. The chain grew into the leviathan he had left 
behind 
with the major, and he sold up in the late eighties, if memory serves.

Anyway, looking forward to the gig. We were in Brizz in the summer and 
checked 
out the Fleece, then found ourselves next door in the excellent 'Seven 
Stars'.Any one from here, who is going to be there, before the gig, may 
find me 
playing Pool. Badly.

Oh ! And Rodney requests ? 'Talkin' on the Other Phone'.

Please

G

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
      (Paul Vallis)
   2. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the   Fleecegig
      (gareth james)
   3. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released       theFleecegig
      (Philip Hendry)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:37:04 +0000
From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
        Fleecegig
To: Blue Aeroplanes List <blueplanes@bl...org>
Message-ID: <COL104-W399371E0BC8F3CDD58433ECA740@ph...gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Trev:

They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel - do you 
still 
serve that?


Me:
Sadly not.  That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its own 
brewery on 
site.  Bristol Best was the other one if I recall correctly.  The 
Dogbolter was 
the stronger of the two, and I can't really improve on Trev's description 
- 
rocket fuel!

I was there last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / Revere / 
Thomas 
Truax gig) and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped ale, although they 
did 
have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, but it was a beer that 
you 
usually find on pump in keg form.  I think it was Bath Ales Gem, but I'd 
already 
had a couple in the Seven Stars next door (now that IS a pub for the real 
ale 
connosuier), plus at least a couple more at the gig, and the memory is a 
little 
hazy.

Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any proper 
ale on, 
but then the past few years going down there I've been to many gigs where 
the 
ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was usually either Bass 
or 
Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.  One of the problems with having a 
pub 
that isn't open every night and suffers from wildly fluctuating 
attendances 
(depending on who is playing) is that keeping an ale is more difficult.

Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker) I look 
forward 
to the 7" single.  Limited edition vinyl singles are de rigeur nowadays, 
so they 
are just moving with the times.

I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called.  I'd 
have 
preferred to wait a bit longer for Altitude as well as I thought it was a 
good 
collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the Roundheads disc of 
Cavaliers.  A bit more time spend on them would have improved the sound 
immensely in my opinion.

Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!

Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to have a man 
on the 
inside!  Remember guys - he may not always tell us what we want to hear, 
but 
don't shoot the messenger.

PV1
(who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about the 
upcoming 
Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make either)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: gareth james <gtbcomps@ya...co.uk>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
        Fleecegig
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
        <blueplanes@bl...org>
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Chris,
I think we all very much support and thank you for keeping us 'in the 
loop'.

Yes, some have grumbled that you've been telling us the new album is just 
round 
the corner and yet another year will soon be with us without a release.
What I hadn't realised before, but you've now clarified (though I probably 
should have realised in the first place!!) is that Gerald works at his own 
pace, 
with numerous changes of mind!!!

Please continue to keep us as informed as you've always done; we'll just 
need to 
curb our enthusiasm and remember this is Gerald we're dealing with!!

Whilst waiting I would point fans to the back catalogue of 'The Hold 
Steady', 
which i can't remember anyone else suggesting.

Very BA like (talker rather than singer),? though they sadly lack any of 
the 
amazing variation that we BA fans love, they play just one single rock 
mode, but 
they do it rather well!!!
First album 'Almost Killed me' sets the tone perfect, avoid this years 
release 
'Heaven is Whenever' though, rather poor to say the least....

Not sure I can make the 2nd, but hope all things work smoothly.

Thanks again Chris, keep up the good work Gareth

--- On Fri, 10/9/10, Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com> wrote:

From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig
To: "Blue Aeroplanes List" <blueplanes@bl...org>
Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 14:37




Trev:

They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel - do you 
still 
serve that?


Me:
Sadly not.? That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its own 
brewery on 
site.? Bristol Best was the other one if I recall correctly.? The 
Dogbolter was 
the stronger of the two, and I can't really improve on Trev's description 
- 
rocket fuel!
?
I was there?last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / Revere / 
Thomas 
Truax gig)?and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped ale, although they 
did 
have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, but it was a beer that 
you 
usually find on pump in keg form.? I think it was Bath Ales Gem, but I'd 
already 
had a couple in the Seven Stars next door (now that IS a pub for the real 
ale 
connosuier), plus?at least a couple more at the gig,?and the memory is a 
little 
hazy.
?
Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any proper 
ale on, 
but then the past few years going down there I've been to many gigs where 
the 
ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was usually either Bass 
or 
Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.? One of the problems with having a 
pub 
that isn't open every night and suffers from wildly fluctuating 
attendances 
(depending on who is playing) is that keeping an ale is more difficult.
?
Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker)?I look 
forward 
to the 7" single.? Limited edition vinyl singles are de rigeur nowadays, 
so they 
are just moving with the times.
?
I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called.? I'd 
have 
preferred to wait a bit longer?for Altitude as well?as I thought it was a 
good 
collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the Roundheads disc of 
Cavaliers.? A bit more time spend on them would have improved the sound 
immensely in my opinion.
?
Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!
?
Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to have a man 
on the 
inside!? Remember guys - he may not always tell us what we want to hear, 
but 
don't shoot the messenger.
?
PV1
(who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about the 
upcoming 
Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make either)

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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:53:15 +0100
From: "Philip Hendry" <philip.hendry@bb...co.uk>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released
        theFleecegig
To: "A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes"
        <blueplanes@bl...org>
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Sounds like a sub Planes to me - I'd rather wait for the real 
thing.....although 
I urge everyone to check out Sleepy Sun and The Soundcarriers...nothing 
like the 
BAs except for the craft, musciallity and attention to audio excellence...

BBC Phil

________________________________

From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org
[mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On Behalf Of gareth james
Sent: 10 September 2010 16:16
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released 
theFleecegig


Chris,
I think we all very much support and thank you for keeping us 'in the 
loop'.

Yes, some have grumbled that you've been telling us the new album is just 
round 
the corner and yet another year will soon be with us without a release.
What I hadn't realised before, but you've now clarified (though I probably 
should have realised in the first place!!) is that Gerald works at his own 
pace, 
with numerous changes of mind!!!

Please continue to keep us as informed as you've always done; we'll just 
need to 
curb our enthusiasm and remember this is Gerald we're dealing with!!

Whilst waiting I would point fans to the back catalogue of 'The Hold 
Steady', 
which i can't remember anyone else suggesting.

Very BA like (talker rather than singer),  though they sadly lack any of 
the 
amazing variation that we BA fans love, they play just one single rock 
mode, but 
they do it rather well!!!
First album 'Almost Killed me' sets the tone perfect, avoid this years 
release 
'Heaven is Whenever' though, rather poor to say the least....

Not sure I can make the 2nd, but hope all things work smoothly.

Thanks again Chris, keep up the good work Gareth

--- On Fri, 10/9/10, Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com> wrote:



        From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
        Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released 
the 
Fleecegig
        To: "Blue Aeroplanes List" <blueplanes@bl...org>
        Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 14:37


        Trev:
        They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel
- do you still serve that?


        Me:
        Sadly not.  That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its 
own 
brewery on site.  Bristol Best was the other one if I recall correctly.  
The 
Dogbolter was the stronger of the two, and I can't really improve on 
Trev's 
description - rocket fuel!

        I was there last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / 
Revere / 
Thomas Truax gig) and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped ale, 
although 
they did have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, but it was a 
beer that 
you usually find on pump in keg form.  I think it was Bath Ales Gem, but 
I'd 
already had a couple in the Seven Stars next door (now that IS a pub for 
the 
real ale connosuier), plus at least a couple more at the gig, and the 
memory is 
a little hazy.

        Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any 
proper 
ale on, but then the past few years going down there I've been to many 
gigs 
where the ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was usually 
either 
Bass or Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.
One of the problems with having a pub that isn't open every night and 
suffers 
from wildly fluctuating attendances (depending on who is
playing) is that keeping an ale is more difficult.

        Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker) I 
look 
forward to the 7" single.  Limited edition vinyl singles are de rigeur 
nowadays, 
so they are just moving with the times.

        I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called. 
 I'd 
have preferred to wait a bit longer for Altitude as well as I thought it 
was a 
good collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the Roundheads disc 
of 
Cavaliers.  A bit more time spend on them would have improved the sound 
immensely in my opinion.

        Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!

        Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to 
have a 
man on the inside!  Remember guys - he may not always tell us what we want 
to 
hear, but don't shoot the messenger.

        PV1
        (who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about 
the 
upcoming Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make either)

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