Re: BluePlanes Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17

[Gordon Wilhelmi <Gordon.Wilhelmi@ro...org.uk>]

Wholeheartedly concur with just about everything on these threads (I'm a 
glass full kind of person).Well made point about Lisa visavis the carping, 
the same might apply to Nora some time back.The idiosynchratic nature of 
the Aeros output, and art in general, is possibly the very reason I have 
followed them for so long. Who else would issue a song in a format fifteen 
years out of date ? Can't wait.

Dogbolter ! There's a blast from the past. The guy who started the Firkin 
chain way back had come out of one of the major old piss water breweries 
and possibly kick started the Real Ale campaign by returning to a 
traditional format of floorboards, on site brewing and live music. The Fox 
and Firkin at Ladywell was amongst the first, I believe, and featured a 
pianist on Saturday nights rousing the punters to singalongs. The chain 
grew into the leviathan he had left behind with the major, and he sold up 
in the late eighties, if memory serves.

Anyway, looking forward to the gig. We were in Brizz in the summer and 
checked out the Fleece, then found ourselves next door in the excellent 
'Seven Stars'.Any one from here, who is going to be there, before the gig, 
may find me playing Pool. Badly.

Oh ! And Rodney requests ? 'Talkin' on the Other Phone'.

Please

G

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   1. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
      (Paul Vallis)
   2. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the   Fleecegig
      (gareth james)
   3. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released       theFleecegig
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:37:04 +0000
From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
        Fleecegig
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Trev:

They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel - do you 
still serve that?


Me:
Sadly not.  That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its own 
brewery on site.  Bristol Best was the other one if I recall correctly.  
The Dogbolter was the stronger of the two, and I can't really improve on 
Trev's description - rocket fuel!

I was there last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / Revere / 
Thomas Truax gig) and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped ale, 
although they did have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, but it 
was a beer that you usually find on pump in keg form.  I think it was Bath 
Ales Gem, but I'd already had a couple in the Seven Stars next door (now 
that IS a pub for the real ale connosuier), plus at least a couple more at 
the gig, and the memory is a little hazy.

Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any proper 
ale on, but then the past few years going down there I've been to many 
gigs where the ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was 
usually either Bass or Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.  One of the 
problems with having a pub that isn't open every night and suffers from 
wildly fluctuating attendances (depending on who is playing) is that 
keeping an ale is more difficult.

Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker) I look 
forward to the 7" single.  Limited edition vinyl singles are de rigeur 
nowadays, so they are just moving with the times.

I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called.  I'd 
have preferred to wait a bit longer for Altitude as well as I thought it 
was a good collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the Roundheads 
disc of Cavaliers.  A bit more time spend on them would have improved the 
sound immensely in my opinion.

Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!

Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to have a man 
on the inside!  Remember guys - he may not always tell us what we want to 
hear, but don't shoot the messenger.

PV1
(who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about the 
upcoming Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make either)
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Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:15:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: gareth james <gtbcomps@ya...co.uk>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
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Chris,
I think we all very much support and thank you for keeping us 'in the 
loop'.

Yes, some have grumbled that you've been telling us the new album is just 
round the corner and yet another year will soon be with us without a 
release.
What I hadn't realised before, but you've now clarified (though I probably 
should have realised in the first place!!) is that Gerald works at his own 
pace, with numerous changes of mind!!!

Please continue to keep us as informed as you've always done; we'll just 
need to curb our enthusiasm and remember this is Gerald we're dealing 
with!!

Whilst waiting I would point fans to the back catalogue of 'The Hold 
Steady', which i can't remember anyone else suggesting.

Very BA like (talker rather than singer),? though they sadly lack any of 
the amazing variation that we BA fans love, they play just one single rock 
mode, but they do it rather well!!!
First album 'Almost Killed me' sets the tone perfect, avoid this years 
release 'Heaven is Whenever' though, rather poor to say the least....

Not sure I can make the 2nd, but hope all things work smoothly.

Thanks again Chris, keep up the good work Gareth

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From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig
To: "Blue Aeroplanes List" <blueplanes@bl...org>
Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 14:37




Trev:

They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel - do you 
still serve that?


Me:
Sadly not.? That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its own 
brewery on site.? Bristol Best was the other one if I recall correctly.? 
The Dogbolter was the stronger of the two, and I can't really improve on 
Trev's description - rocket fuel!
?
I was there?last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / Revere / 
Thomas Truax gig)?and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped ale, 
although they did have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, but it 
was a beer that you usually find on pump in keg form.? I think it was Bath 
Ales Gem, but I'd already had a couple in the Seven Stars next door (now 
that IS a pub for the real ale connosuier), plus?at least a couple more at 
the gig,?and the memory is a little hazy.
?
Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any proper 
ale on, but then the past few years going down there I've been to many 
gigs where the ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was 
usually either Bass or Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.? One of the 
problems with having a pub that isn't open every night and suffers from 
wildly fluctuating attendances (depending on who is playing) is that 
keeping an ale is more difficult.
?
Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker)?I look 
forward to the 7" single.? Limited edition vinyl singles are de rigeur 
nowadays, so they are just moving with the times.
?
I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called.? I'd 
have preferred to wait a bit longer?for Altitude as well?as I thought it 
was a good collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the Roundheads 
disc of Cavaliers.? A bit more time spend on them would have improved the 
sound immensely in my opinion.
?
Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!
?
Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to have a man 
on the inside!? Remember guys - he may not always tell us what we want to 
hear, but don't shoot the messenger.
?
PV1
(who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about the 
upcoming Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make either)

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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released
        theFleecegig
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Sounds like a sub Planes to me - I'd rather wait for the real 
thing.....although I urge everyone to check out Sleepy Sun and The 
Soundcarriers...nothing like the BAs except for the craft, musciallity and 
attention to audio excellence...

BBC Phil

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Sent: 10 September 2010 16:16
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released 
theFleecegig


Chris,
I think we all very much support and thank you for keeping us 'in the 
loop'.

Yes, some have grumbled that you've been telling us the new album is just 
round the corner and yet another year will soon be with us without a 
release.
What I hadn't realised before, but you've now clarified (though I probably 
should have realised in the first place!!) is that Gerald works at his own 
pace, with numerous changes of mind!!!

Please continue to keep us as informed as you've always done; we'll just 
need to curb our enthusiasm and remember this is Gerald we're dealing 
with!!

Whilst waiting I would point fans to the back catalogue of 'The Hold 
Steady', which i can't remember anyone else suggesting.

Very BA like (talker rather than singer),  though they sadly lack any of 
the amazing variation that we BA fans love, they play just one single rock 
mode, but they do it rather well!!!
First album 'Almost Killed me' sets the tone perfect, avoid this years 
release 'Heaven is Whenever' though, rather poor to say the least....

Not sure I can make the 2nd, but hope all things work smoothly.

Thanks again Chris, keep up the good work Gareth

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        From: Paul Vallis <paulvallis@ho...com>
        Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released 
the Fleecegig
        To: "Blue Aeroplanes List" <blueplanes@bl...org>
        Date: Friday, 10 September, 2010, 14:37


        Trev:
        They used to serve a beer called DogBolter which was rocket fuel
- do you still serve that?


        Me:
        Sadly not.  That was a brew from way back when the Fleece had its 
own brewery on site.  Bristol Best was the other one if I recall 
correctly.  The Dogbolter was the stronger of the two, and I can't really 
improve on Trev's description - rocket fuel!

        I was there last Friday night (for the excellent Hazel Mills / 
Revere / Thomas Truax gig) and I'm pretty sure there was no hand pumped 
ale, although they did have an "ale" on keg - I know that sounds wrong, 
but it was a beer that you usually find on pump in keg form.  I think it 
was Bath Ales Gem, but I'd already had a couple in the Seven Stars next 
door (now that IS a pub for the real ale connosuier), plus at least a 
couple more at the gig, and the memory is a little hazy.

        Given its history it seems wrong that the Fleece doesn't have any 
proper ale on, but then the past few years going down there I've been to 
many gigs where the ale either wasn't on or didn't taste great, and it was 
usually either Bass or Old Speckled Hen, nothing interesting.
One of the problems with having a pub that isn't open every night and 
suffers from wildly fluctuating attendances (depending on who is
playing) is that keeping an ale is more difficult.

        Anyway, being a vinyl junkie (though not as bad a one as Rocker) I 
look forward to the 7" single.  Limited edition vinyl singles are de 
rigeur nowadays, so they are just moving with the times.

        I'm happy to wait for the album, whatever it ends up being called. 
 I'd have preferred to wait a bit longer for Altitude as well as I thought 
it was a good collection of songs shoddily recorded, same with the 
Roundheads disc of Cavaliers.  A bit more time spend on them would have 
improved the sound immensely in my opinion.

        Not 100% sure I'll make this gig yet, but I'm working on it!

        Many thanks to Chris for keeping us all informed - its good to 
have a man on the inside!  Remember guys - he may not always tell us what 
we want to hear, but don't shoot the messenger.

        PV1
        (who has a lot of old goth mates who are wetting their pants about 
the upcoming Killing Joke gig at the Fleece, which sadly I can't make 
either)

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