Re: Details of new 7" single to be released theFleecegig

[chris kemp <cjkemp@gm...com>]

I don't post on here much. Rarely have much to add. I saw the Aeros for the
first time in '89 and many times again afterward. Now I live in the States
and doubt I'll see them again. Think of Beatsongs and Tolerance and 
Spitting
out Miracles: incandescent albums that sound as fresh now as when we first
heard them.

You can't complain about how art is produced. If you don't like it, go and
find another favourite band.

Great art is idiosyncratic and can't be pushed around. Kerouac without 
booze
= not Kerouac. Dylan Thomas without booze = not Dylan Thomas. Plath without
a gas oven = not Plath.

The Internet has made things immediate. This is not always good. Wait
instead. Be patient. Flaubert took thirty years to write Madame Bovary. 
We'd
have been pestering him every week to get it done. Our heroes are 
accessible
now. Also not good. Don't badger them.

--ck

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Andy Keulemans <keulemaa@lo...com> wrote:

>  Bless you my child…
>
> You are right about the general naysaying atmos of late,
>
> I was pretty chuffed to get Altitude and a Scottish gig a few years back 
> –
> way more than I had expected.
>
> It’s also nice to hear what’s going on generally and hanging around a bit
> for an album is not a problem, I’m sure it’ll be great when it appears 
> and
> there’s a whole world of music out there to keep the most hardened Amazon
> 1-clicker happy racking up stuff they’ll never have time to listen to!
>
> Hope the Fleece turns out to be a great adventure, although sadly the
> chances of ever actually being there are lodged between slim and fat, 
> living
> away up here.
>
> Any photos or dodgy old live bootlegs of the first night would be greatly
> appreciated in these frozen climes…
>
> Andy Keulemans
>
>
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:
> blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Sharp
> *Sent:* 09 September 2010 13:04
> *To:* A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> *Subject:* Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released
> theFleecegig
>
>
>
> Here's my tuppence worth...
>
>
>
> Altitude was released in 2006, 6 years after Cavaliers. I became involved
> with the band in August 2006 when we started laying down the first 
> tracks of
> what would eventually become Anti-gravity. I was not involved with the 
> band
> at all between 2000 and 2006. I'm sure Altitude was almost complete at
> various points during these 6 years and probably had about 12 different
> titles during this time. This is quite simply the way Gerard does things.
> The difference now is that since 2006 I've tried to develop 
> communications
> between the band and their incredibly loyal fan base (although some of 
> you
> sound like you're wavering a bit!) by overhauling the website, updating 
> the
> myspace and starting a facebook group. As a fan of the band since 1986 I
> thought I would use my privileged position to update everyone with the 
> kind
> of information I would have liked to have received during the 6 years of
> near silence. With hindsight it may have been better not to post so many
> "here's the latest" posts on this newsgroup. Gerard does things his way. 
> He
> will never be rushed into anything. He often changes his mind - usually 
> for
> the better. The difference this time is that you've all been in on it. 
> Most
> of you are bored of waiting for a new album. I feel partly responsible 
> for
> this. It would probably have been better to have heard nothing for a 
> couple
> of years and them just suddenly put it out.
>
>
>
> These are exciting times again for The Blue Aeroplanes. The album is
> finished. You've heard that before but I can assure you Gerard sounds 
> more
> convinced than at any time since I've been involved. It's just a matter 
> of
> working out the best way to release it. I thought there would be a much 
> more
> positive reaction to the news about The Fleece. It's a big deal. Owning 
> The
> Fleece raises the profile of the band and having a "band-run" venue 
> raises
> the profile of The Fleece.
>
>
>
> I'd like to say a massive thank you to Nat Mumford for the hard work he's
> put into the single. It's gonna look great from what I've seen... and 
> it's
> gonna sound even better!
>
>
>
> I know I've said this before but Anti-gravity is a superb album. In my
> opinion way better than Altitude and 2 years less in the making. (I'm a
> glass-half-full person!)
>
>
>
> How about a bit less of the grumpy old men posts and a bit more friendly
> banter eh? That's why Lisa gave up and logged off (although having a baby
> probably had a bit to do with it too!)
>
>
>
> We've got a great line up planned for the launch night so it should be a
> night to remember. The first Aero's gig at The fleece since the 90's.
> Rodney's in. A few more old favourites awaiting confirmation. We've sold
> over 100 tickets already. Rocker DJ-ing. Great support bands (I love The
> Paris Riots). There's a real buzz about it in Bristol.
>
>
>
> I'm excited. I just wish you lot could be (even a little bit). Maybe some
> of you are but you never post. Now's your chance!
>
>
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>
>
>
> This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit.
>
> I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because i've
> been helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have 
> something
> to add.
>
> But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is
> finished. However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to
> happen to a finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and 
> they
> all take time.
>
> *'Good luck signs'** *and *''When things are good'** *are both lyrical
> references drawn from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my 
> guess
> is that at some point, this was intended to be on the album and when it 
> came
> off, it no longer made as much sense to have either of those as the album
> title.
>
> I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more
> special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine
> tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger, 
> Top
> of the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be able 
> to
> get it in your friendly local independent record store as well.
>
> As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology
> eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet before
> you can say 'anti-gravity'.
>
> Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I
> will ring you and sing it down the phone.
>
> Nat
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000
> From: pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleecegig
>
> Incidentally, just Googled *'China Brilliance Automotive'** 
> *(unsurprisingly,
> it's the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....
>
>
>
> Here's the link:
>
> *www.brillianceauto.com*
>
>
>
> *p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on
> vinyl in the far-east either!! :-)*
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
> *To:* blueplanes@bl...org
> *Sent:* Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
> *Subject:* Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleecegig
>
> Oh dear.
>
>
>
> I’m all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other 
> lossless
> format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.
>
>
>
> -Doc
>
> *From:* blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:
> blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] *On Behalf Of *Patrick Brown
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
> *To:* A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> *Subject:* Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleece gig
>
>
>
> Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i 
> must
> say that i agree with all of them!!....
>
>
>
> Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la 
> iTunes @
> £5 a hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).  I'd even 
> offer
> to set it up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...
>
>
>
> Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to 
> *'Good
> Luck Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then?** *Was it a USA only (vinyl
> double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?
>
>
>
> I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live;
> Angela Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill 
> it
> (In fact, i recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...
>
>
>
> 'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?
>
>
>
> Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a 
> 'limited
> life span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a playable
> format) will ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.
>
>
>
> Pat
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
> *To:* A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <
> blueplanes@bl...org>
> *Sent:* Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
> *Subject:* Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleece gig
>
> Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business 
> plan.
>
> I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if
>  the BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).
>
>
>
> Stuart W
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:
>
>
>
> Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and
> teasing over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 
> Kinds
> of Love" sounded promising).  I've rather given up hope of ever hearing 
> it:
> I live in Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you understand. 
> The
> Blue Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their early years.
>
> So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a 
> single
> in a format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an 
> album
> that isn't even available. Stunning! An entire  generation of potential 
> fans
> will be rushing out to buy a record player especially. Granted, album
> releases get delayed for any number of artistic and non-artistic reasons,
> but... but... but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some good news!
>
> Goadingly,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only
> Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.
>
>
>
> The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here
> are few more details from Gerard:
>
>
>
> "China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel
> room at a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot charity
> ribbon on the front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to 
> one
> person or one thing to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. 
> Musically,
> it's from the sessions for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but 
> didn't
> quite make the finished record due to its resemblance to the early Who
> drunkenly trying to imitate Santana. Which is great, obviously, but 
> doesn't
> sound like anything else on the album, hence its release as a spiffing
> stand-alone single.
>
>
>
> "The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might 
> have
> been filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman cassette
> recorder. On a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. Then we
> decided to buy a venue and became the owners of The Fleece (& Firkin for
> those with long memories) and restore it to its former glory. So we are
> playing a celebratory gig at The Fleece on October 2nd at which this 
> single
> will be made available for the first time. And if you can find us, we'll
> sign it."
>
>
>
> We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the 
> 2nd!
>
>
>
> Nat
>
>
>
>
>
> From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig Poster
>
> Get behind us.
>
>
>
> Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of 
> Bristol...
>
>
>
>
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