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Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig


  • Subject: Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
  • From: Patrick Brown <pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk>
  • Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:18:07 +0000 (GMT)

Chris

'Credit where credits due'....Yes, you have certainly delivered more news 
on a 
regular basis (which I'm sure we're all eternally grateful for). 


By definition (myself included); most of the BA fan base are 'GOM'..(maybe 
we 
were Angry Young Men in our youth?)....

I honestly don't want to whinge! (quite the opposite in fact; BUT I would 
really 
like to buy (or beg, borrow or steal even!!) some New material from the 
band.  
That's how much I want to hear it. (& a nice shiny new CD thingy would be 
ideal)...And Soon please!! .

Pat




________________________________
From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net>
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org>
Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 13:04:28
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig

Here's my tuppence worth... 

Altitude was released in 2006, 6 years after Cavaliers. I became involved 
with 
the band in August 2006 when we started laying down the first tracks of 
what 
would eventually become Anti-gravity. I was not involved with the band at 
all 
between 2000 and 2006. I'm sure Altitude was almost complete at various 
points 
during these 6 years and probably had about 12 different titles during 
this 
time. This is quite simply the way Gerard does things. The difference now 
is 
that since 2006 I've tried to develop communications between the band and 
their 
incredibly loyal fan base (although some of you sound like you're wavering 
a 
bit!) by overhauling the website, updating the myspace and starting a 
facebook 
group. As a fan of the band since 1986 I thought I would use my privileged 
position to update everyone with the kind of information I would have 
liked to 
have received during the 6 years of near silence. With hindsight it may 
have 
been better not to post so many "here's the latest" posts on this 
newsgroup. 
Gerard does things his way. He will never be rushed into anything. He 
often 
changes his mind - usually for the better. The difference this time is 
that 
you've all been in on it. Most of you are bored of waiting for a new 
album. I 
feel partly responsible for this. It would probably have been better to 
have 
heard nothing for a couple of years and them just suddenly put it out.

These are exciting times again for The Blue Aeroplanes. The album is 
finished. 
You've heard that before but I can assure you Gerard sounds more convinced 
than 
at any time since I've been involved. It's just a matter of working out 
the best 
way to release it. I thought there would be a much more positive reaction 
to the 
news about The Fleece. It's a big deal. Owning The Fleece raises the 
profile of 
the band and having a "band-run" venue raises the profile of The Fleece.

I'd like to say a massive thank you to Nat Mumford for the hard work he's 
put 
into the single. It's gonna look great from what I've seen... and it's 
gonna 
sound even better!

I know I've said this before but Anti-gravity is a superb album. In my 
opinion 
way better than Altitude and 2 years less in the making. (I'm a 
glass-half-full 
person!)

How about a bit less of the grumpy old men posts and a bit more friendly 
banter 
eh? That's why Lisa gave up and logged off (although having a baby 
probably had 
a bit to do with it too!)

We've got a great line up planned for the launch night so it should be a 
night 
to remember. The first Aero's gig at The fleece since the 90's. Rodney's 
in. A 
few more old favourites awaiting confirmation. We've sold over 100 tickets 
already. Rocker DJ-ing. Great support bands (I love The Paris Riots). 
There's a 
real buzz about it in Bristol.

I'm excited. I just wish you lot could be (even a little bit). Maybe some 
of you 
are but you never post. Now's your chance!

Chris




On 9 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:

 
>This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit. 
> 
>I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because i've 
>been 
>helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have something 
>to add. 
> 
>But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is 
>finished. 
>However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to happen to a 
>finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and they all take 
>time.  
> 
>'Good luck signs' and ''When things are good' are both lyrical references 
>drawn 
>from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my guess is that at 
>some 
>point, this was intended to be on the album and when it came off, it no 
>longer 
>made as much sense to have either of those as the album title. 
> 
>I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more 
>special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine 
>tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger, 
>Top of 
>the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be able to 
>get 
>it in your friendly local independent record store as well. 
> 
>As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology 
>eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet before 
>you 
>can say 'anti-gravity'. 
> 
>Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I will 
>ring you 
>and sing it down the phone.
> 
>Nat
>
> 
>________________________________
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000
>From: pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk
>To: blueplanes@bl...org
>Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
>Fleecegig
>
>
>Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive' (unsurprisingly, 
>it's 
>the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....
>
>Here's the link:
>www.brillianceauto.com
> 
>p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on 
>vinyl in 
>the far-east either!! :-)
>
>
>
________________________________
From: "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
>To: blueplanes@bl...org
>Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
>Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
>Fleecegig
>
>
>Oh dear.
> 
>I’m all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other 
>lossless 
>format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.
> 
>-Doc
>From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On
> Behalf Of Patrick Brown
>Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
>To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
>Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
>Fleece 
gig
> 
>Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i 
>must say 
>that i agree with all of them!!....
> 
>Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la iTunes 
>@ £5 a 
>hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).  I'd even offer to 
>set it 
>up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...
> 
>Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to 
>'Good Luck 
>Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only (vinyl 
>double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?
> 
>I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live; 
>Angela 
>Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill it (In 
>fact, i 
>recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...
> 
>'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?
> 
>Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a 
>'limited life 
>span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a playable format) 
>will 
>ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.
> 
>Pat
> 
>
________________________________

>From: Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
>To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org>
>Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
>Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
>Fleece 
gig
>
>Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business 
>plan.
>I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if  
>the 
>BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).
> 
>Stuart W
> 
> 
> 
> 
>On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:
>
>
>
>Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and 
>teasing 
>over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 Kinds of 
>Love" 
>sounded promising).  I've rather given up hope of ever hearing it: I live 
>in 
>Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you understand. The Blue 
>Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their early years.
>So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a 
>single in a 
>format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an album 
>that 
>isn't even available. Stunning! An entire  generation of potential fans 
>will be 
>rushing out to buy a record player especially. Granted, album releases 
>get 
>delayed for any number of artistic and non-artistic reasons, but... 
>but... 
>but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some good news!
>Goadingly,
>Phil
> 
> 
>On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only 
>Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.
> 
>The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here 
>are few 
>more details from Gerard: 
> 
>"China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel 
>room at 
>a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot charity ribbon 
>on the 
>front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to one person or 
>one thing 
>to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. Musically, it's from the 
>sessions 
>for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but didn't quite make the 
>finished 
>record due to its resemblance to the early Who drunkenly trying to 
>imitate 
>Santana. Which is great, obviously, but doesn't sound like anything else 
>on the 
>album, hence its release as a spiffing stand-alone single. 
> 
>"The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might 
>have been 
>filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman cassette 
>recorder. On 
>a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. Then we decided to buy 
>a venue 
>and became the owners of The Fleece (& Firkin for those with long 
>memories) and 
>restore it to its former glory. So we are playing a celebratory gig at 
>The 
>Fleece on October 2nd at which this single will be made available for the 
>first 
>time. And if you can find us, we'll sign it." 
> 
>We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the 
>2nd!
> 
>Nat
> 
>
>
>From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
>Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
>To: blueplanes@bl...org
>Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig Poster
>Get behind us.
>   
>  Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of 
> Bristol...
>   
>
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