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Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
- Subject: Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
- From: Nick White <nick.white@ya...co.uk>
- Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:22:46 +0100
Well I for one am very much looking forward to my first visit to the
Fleece for the grand opening and am making a flying (well, training) visit
to Bristol for the occasion. Thanks for all the updates Chris. And Nat.
They are appreciated by some of us who don't always find time to post. And
I find that there is quite a lot of other good music in the world that I
can listen to while waiting for the next Aeroplanes release to be
perfected. And named.
NW
On 9 Sep 2010, at 13:04, Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> wrote:
> Here's my tuppence worth...
>
> Altitude was released in 2006, 6 years after Cavaliers. I became
> involved with the band in August 2006 when we started laying down the
> first tracks of what would eventually become Anti-gravity. I was not
> involved with the band at all between 2000 and 2006. I'm sure Altitude
> was almost complete at various points during these 6 years and probably
> had about 12 different titles during this time. This is quite simply the
> way Gerard does things. The difference now is that since 2006 I've tried
> to develop communications between the band and their incredibly loyal
> fan base (although some of you sound like you're wavering a bit!) by
> overhauling the website, updating the myspace and starting a facebook
> group. As a fan of the band since 1986 I thought I would use my
> privileged position to update everyone with the kind of information I
> would have liked to have received during the 6 years of near silence.
> With hindsight it may have been better not to post so many "here's the
> latest" posts on this newsgroup. Gerard does things his way. He will
> never be rushed into anything. He often changes his mind - usually for
> the better. The difference this time is that you've all been in on it.
> Most of you are bored of waiting for a new album. I feel partly
> responsible for this. It would probably have been better to have heard
> nothing for a couple of years and them just suddenly put it out.
>
> These are exciting times again for The Blue Aeroplanes. The album is
> finished. You've heard that before but I can assure you Gerard sounds
> more convinced than at any time since I've been involved. It's just a
> matter of working out the best way to release it. I thought there would
> be a much more positive reaction to the news about The Fleece. It's a
> big deal. Owning The Fleece raises the profile of the band and having a
> "band-run" venue raises the profile of The Fleece.
>
> I'd like to say a massive thank you to Nat Mumford for the hard work
> he's put into the single. It's gonna look great from what I've seen...
> and it's gonna sound even better!
>
> I know I've said this before but Anti-gravity is a superb album. In my
> opinion way better than Altitude and 2 years less in the making. (I'm a
> glass-half-full person!)
>
> How about a bit less of the grumpy old men posts and a bit more friendly
> banter eh? That's why Lisa gave up and logged off (although having a
> baby probably had a bit to do with it too!)
>
> We've got a great line up planned for the launch night so it should be a
> night to remember. The first Aero's gig at The fleece since the 90's.
> Rodney's in. A few more old favourites awaiting confirmation. We've sold
> over 100 tickets already. Rocker DJ-ing. Great support bands (I love The
> Paris Riots). There's a real buzz about it in Bristol.
>
> I'm excited. I just wish you lot could be (even a little bit). Maybe
> some of you are but you never post. Now's your chance!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On 9 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>>
>> This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit.
>>
>> I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because
>> i've been helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have
>> something to add.
>>
>> But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is
>> finished. However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to
>> happen to a finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and
>> they all take time.
>>
>> 'Good luck signs' and ''When things are good' are both lyrical
>> references drawn from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my
>> guess is that at some point, this was intended to be on the album and
>> when it came off, it no longer made as much sense to have either of
>> those as the album title.
>>
>> I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more
>> special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine
>> tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger,
>> Top of the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be
>> able to get it in your friendly local independent record store as well.
>>
>> As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology
>> eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet
>> before you can say 'anti-gravity'.
>>
>> Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I will
>> ring you and sing it down the phone.
>>
>> Nat
>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000
>> From: pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk
>> To: blueplanes@bl...org
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
>> Fleecegig
>>
>> Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive'
>> (unsurprisingly, it's the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....
>>
>> Here's the link:
>> www.brillianceauto.com
>>
>> p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on
>> vinyl in the far-east either!! :-)
>>
>> From: "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
>> To: blueplanes@bl...org
>> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
>> Fleecegig
>>
>> Oh dear.
>>
>> I’m all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other
>> lossless format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.
>>
>> -Doc
>> From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org]
>> On Behalf Of Patrick Brown
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
>> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
>> Fleece gig
>>
>> Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i
>> must say that i agree with all of them!!....
>>
>> Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la
>> iTunes @ £5 a hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).
>> I'd even offer to set it up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...
>>
>> Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to
>> 'Good Luck Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only
>> (vinyl double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?
>>
>> I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live;
>> Angela Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill
>> it (In fact, i recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...
>>
>> 'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?
>>
>> Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a
>> 'limited life span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a
>> playable format) will ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.
>>
>> Pat
>>
>> From: Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
>> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org>
>> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
>> Fleece gig
>>
>> Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business
>> plan.
>> I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt
>> if the BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of
>> Bristol).
>>
>> Stuart W
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description
>> and teasing over the last year or two, not very much music (although
>> "25 Kinds of Love" sounded promising). I've rather given up hope of
>> ever hearing it: I live in Glasgow, so I have a very low life
>> expectancy, you understand. The Blue Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin'
>> Blue Nile in their early years.
>> So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a
>> single in a format that few people still have access to of an outtake
>> from an album that isn't even available. Stunning! An entire
>> generation of potential fans will be rushing out to buy a record player
>> especially. Granted, album releases get delayed for any number of
>> artistic and non-artistic reasons, but... but... but... Oh, go on
>> Chris, tell us some good news!
>> Goadingly,
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only
>> Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.
>>
>> The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and
>> here are few more details from Gerard:
>>
>> "China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles
>> hotel room at a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot
>> charity ribbon on the front. or maybe the side. It's about being all
>> things to one person or one thing to everybody. Neither is likely to
>> succeed. Musically, it's from the sessions for the forthcoming
>> 'Anti-Gravity' album, but didn't quite make the finished record due to
>> its resemblance to the early Who drunkenly trying to imitate Santana.
>> Which is great, obviously, but doesn't sound like anything else on the
>> album, hence its release as a spiffing stand-alone single.
>>
>> "The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might
>> have been filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman
>> cassette recorder. On a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin.
>> Then we decided to buy a venue and became the owners of The Fleece (&
>> Firkin for those with long memories) and restore it to its former
>> glory. So we are playing a celebratory gig at The Fleece on October 2nd
>> at which this single will be made available for the first time. And if
>> you can find us, we'll sign it."
>>
>> We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the
>> 2nd!
>>
>> Nat
>>
>>
>>
>> From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
>> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
>> To: blueplanes@bl...org
>> Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig Poster
>>
>> Get behind us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of
>> Bristol...
>>
>>
>>
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