Re: BluePlanes Digest, Vol 43, Issue 3

[Mitchell Dickerman <mdickerman@gm...com>]

The point is:
- Most of us can't play or don't want to bother with 7" singles
- We want to hear the songs
- We want to pay the band for the songs

Therefore, give us a digital option so everyone wins. Easy peasy.

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> 1. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
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> 2. Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig
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> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000 (GMT)
> From: Patrick Brown <pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleecegig
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> Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive' (unsurprisingly,
it's
> the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....
>
> Here's the link:
> www.brillianceauto.com
> ?
> p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on
vinyl in
> the far-east either!! :-)
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig
>
>
> Oh dear.
> ?
> I?m all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other
lossless
> format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.
> ?
> -Doc
> From:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org<From%3Ablueplanes-bounces@bl...org>
> [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On Behalf Of Patrick Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleece gig
> ?
> Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i 
> must
say
> that i agree with all of them!!....
> ?
> Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la iTunes
@ ?5 a
> hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).? I'd even offer to
set it
> up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...
> ?
> Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least?(what happened to 
> 'Good
Luck
> Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only (vinyl
> double-album)?release with gatefold sleeve?
> ?
> I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live;
Angela
> Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill it (In
fact, i
> recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...
> ?
> 'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?
> ?
> Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a
'limited life
> span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a playable format)
will
> ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.
> ?
> Pat
> ?
>
> ________________________________
>
> From:Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <
blueplanes@bl...org>
> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleece gig
>
> Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business
plan.
> I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if
?the
> BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).
> ?
> Stuart W
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:
>
>
> Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and
teasing
> over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 Kinds of
Love"
> sounded promising). ?I've rather given up hope of ever hearing it: I live
in
> Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you understand. The Blue
> Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their early years.
>
> So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a 
> single
in a
> format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an album
that
> isn't even available. Stunning! An entire ?generation of potential fans
will be
> rushing out to buy a record player especially. Granted, album releases 
> get

> delayed for any number of artistic and non-artistic reasons, but... 
> but...

> but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some good news!
>
> Goadingly,
> Phil
> ?
> ?
> On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>
>
> Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only
> Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.
> ?
> The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here
are few
> more details from Gerard:?
> ?
> "China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel
room at
> a church that looked like a wedding cake with?an 80-foot charity ribbon 
> on
the
> front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to one person or 
> one
thing
> to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. Musically, it's from the
sessions
> for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but didn't quite make the
finished
> record due to its?resemblance to the early Who drunkenly trying to 
> imitate

> Santana. Which is great, obviously, but doesn't sound like anything else
on the
> album, hence its release as a spiffing stand-alone single.?
> ?
> "The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might
have been
> filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman cassette
recorder. On
> a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. Then we decided to buy 
> a
venue
> and became the owners of The Fleece (& Firkin for those with long
memories) and
> restore it to its former glory. So we are playing a celebratory gig at 
> The

> Fleece on October 2nd at which this single will be made available for the
first
> time. And if you can find us, we'll sign it."?
> ?
> We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the
2nd!
> ?
> Nat
> ?
>
>
> From:?chris.sharp4@vi...net
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
> To:?blueplanes@bl...org
> Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig Poster
> Get behind us.
>
> Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of
Bristol...
>
>
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> From: Nathaniel Mumford <nathanielmumford@ho...com>
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
> Fleecegig
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>
> This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit.
>
>
>
> I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because i've
been helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have 
something
to add.
>
>
>
> But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is
finished. However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to
happen to a finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and they
all take time.
>
>
>
> 'Good luck signs' and ''When things are good' are both lyrical references
drawn from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my guess is that at
some point, this was intended to be on the album and when it came off, it 
no
longer made as much sense to have either of those as the album title.
>
>
>
> I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more
special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine
tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger, Top
of the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be able to
get it in your friendly local independent record store as well.
>
>
>
> As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology
eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet before
you can say 'anti-gravity'.
>
>
>
> Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I will
ring you and sing it down the phone.
>
>
>
> Nat
>
>
>
>
>
> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000
> From: pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive' (unsurprisingly,
it's the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....
>
> Here's the link:
> www.brillianceauto.com
>
> p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on
vinyl in the far-east either!! :-)
>
>
>
>
> From: "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig
>
>
>
>
>
> Oh dear.
>
> I?m all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other
lossless format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.
>
> -Doc
>
>
> From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:
blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On Behalf Of Patrick Brown
> Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleece gig
>
>
>
> Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i 
> must
say that i agree with all of them!!....
>
>
>
> Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la iTunes
@ ?5 a hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?). I'd even 
offer
to set it up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...
>
>
>
> Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to 
> 'Good
Luck Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only (vinyl
double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?
>
>
>
> I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live;
Angela Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill it
(In fact, i recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...
>
>
>
> 'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?
>
>
>
> Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a
'limited life span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a
playable format) will ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.
>
>
>
> Pat
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
> To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <
blueplanes@bl...org>
> Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleece gig
>
> Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business
plan.
>
> I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if
the BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).
>
>
>
> Stuart W
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:
>
>
>
> Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and
teasing over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 Kinds
of Love" sounded promising). I've rather given up hope of ever hearing it: 
I
live in Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you understand. The
Blue Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their early years.
>
> So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a 
> single
in a format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an 
album
that isn't even available. Stunning! An entire generation of potential fans
will be rushing out to buy a record player especially. Granted, album
releases get delayed for any number of artistic and non-artistic reasons,
but... but... but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some good news!
>
>
> Goadingly,
>
> Phil
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only
Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.
>
>
>
> The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here
are few more details from Gerard:
>
>
>
>
> "China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel
room at a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot charity
ribbon on the front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to one
person or one thing to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. Musically,
it's from the sessions for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but didn't
quite make the finished record due to its resemblance to the early Who
drunkenly trying to imitate Santana. Which is great, obviously, but doesn't
sound like anything else on the album, hence its release as a spiffing
stand-alone single.
>
>
>
> "The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might
have been filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman 
cassette
recorder. On a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. Then we
decided to buy a venue and became the owners of The Fleece (& Firkin for
those with long memories) and restore it to its former glory. So we are
playing a celebratory gig at The Fleece on October 2nd at which this single
will be made available for the first time. And if you can find us, we'll
sign it."
>
>
>
> We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the
2nd!
>
>
>
> Nat
>
>
>
>
> From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
> Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
> To: blueplanes@bl...org
> Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig PosterGet behind us.
>
>
>
> Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of
Bristol...
>
>
>
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