RE: can't love the Kinks

["Doc" <blueaero@ya...com>]

--- Eric Gregory <egregory@st...com> wrote:
>i don't disagree that he & the band weren't a presence....think of all
>the shitty bands that did & still continue to sound like them.,..all
>the cheap production tricks (quiet verse, pounding chorus) that you
>still hear on alternative rock radio today... that's not my point.

>could he write is a subjective & loaded question but sometimes you've
>gotta make those distinctions, especially if yr gonna do something
>like that yrself.

Fair enough.  If there's no groove there, then why bother?

>i could empathize with alotta what cobain was saying, but who needs to
>hear the guy's diary scribbling set to punk rock crossed with sabbath?

>morrison was drawing on alotta influences & trying to place his stake
>as an important voice...as bad as his shit was (& believe me, i'd
NEVER
>defend his attempts at "poetry"), he was working in & thru traditions
>of countercultural art, expression, etc... (artaud, the surrealists,
>dada, experimental film, his godawful integration of native american
>wordspeak, nietzche, etc..)...pretentious yes, but no more so than the
>beloved mr. langley's reworkings of works by patchen, plath , etc...

Ummm... this is an odd argument, saying that "more influences equals
better art".  I agree that Morrison's influences were certainly
broader, but that doesn't make him better or worse.

>in fact, i'd say langley owes a lot to morrison.

Ehhh... I'd say he owes more to Keurac, Ginsberg, and that Beat Poets
lot.  And I'd say Morrison owes a lot to them as well.  There's a lot
more "Howl" than "Riders On The Storm" in Gerard, I think.

>& the reason why i'll never own a nirvana record & i have had & still
>do own a few BA recs is cos they're responding to a long deep
>tradition....playing with it, expanding, mimicking, etc...it sounded
>like cobain owned 3 records...

I agree.  This is why I don't own any Nirvana records... or any other
Seattle band records.  They all sound the same to me.

-Doc


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