Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig

[GORDON WILHELMI <gordon.wilhelmi192@bt...com>]

OK, OK........
 
But, early times for me, walking out of one of the London gigs, T&C 
probably, 1990'ish, got handed a postcard, official like. The front was 
B&W of the old touring Backdrop. On the reverse was a questionnaire ;
Would you buy music by
 
A) CD
B) Vinyl
C) Anyother source
 
or words to that FX.
 
I voted B.
 
Typical ! True.
 
Gordy

--- On Tue, 14/9/10, e.h.doxtator@ac...com <e.h.doxtator@ac...com> wrote:


From: e.h.doxtator@ac...com <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 14:27








I’m pretty sure nobodys gonna care, but I’ll just say:  I am a complete 
fuss-pot about my music.  I have one simple rule about music purchases:  
if’s it’s DRMed, or source-tagged, I don’t buy it.
 
I don’t buy MP3’s from Amazon, or M4A’s from iTunes or whatever.  I buy 
LP’s, CD’s or “clean” lossless digital music.
 
If I have physical media, I dual encode my music, wherever possible:  FLAC 
and M4A.  The only change I make when I rip to FLAC is to set the 
compression level to max.  Since it’s lossless, I don’t need to worry 
about it much.  I chose FLAC over Apple’s AAC lossless because FLAC is an 
open-source standard, it’s supported by indie labels, has no DRM there are 
some audio players that support it (either natively or through the superb 
Rockbox).  I play FLAC at home, where there is no background noise.
 
The M4A’s I encode as 320kbps VBR I chose M4A’s because there are a lot of 
iPods in my house and there’s nothing more disgruntled in Home Tech 
Support than a family member who cannot play their music.  I play the 
M4A’s on the train, or in the car, where fidelity isn’t quite as important.
 
For ripping, I use Illustrate’s dbPoweramp:
It integrates seamlessly with Windows (I’m not crazy about the 
higgledy-piggledy support for non AAC/M4A files on the Mac—I run it in a 
VM on my Mac and it’s fantastic)
The codec support is excellent
The rules for auto-tagging and directory creation make sense
For 29 USD, it’s a lifetime license, no support fees
 
When I rip it’s CD->FLAC->Tag Edit/Album Artwork->dbPoweramp convert to 
FLAC to M4A (preserves almost all of the tags).  I move the FLAC files to 
the FLAC directory on my big HD, and the M4A’s to the iTunes library on 
the same drive.
 
I haven’t found a silver bullet that meets all my needs for track tagging. 
 For FLAC tag editing, album art manipulation, and streaming playback, I 
use JRiver’s Media Center.  Its tag support is superb (iTunes is a 
bloated, modal nightmare, although iTunes 10 is a little better than its 
predecessors).
 
For mass-tagging M4A’s, dbPoweramp handles almost all the tags.  For 
missing tags and I need to do a mass-update, I use some Python code I 
wrote (copies tags and artwork from the FLAC files to the M4A) or I just 
use iTunes for onezee-twozee.
 
For artwork, I usually just search the internets, but if I don’t like the 
image (or one isn’t available), I just scan the CD cover.
 
-Doc
 

From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On 
Behalf Of JULIAN NOBLE
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:32 AM
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig
 





If MP3s sound shite its because you are getting rubbish 128 bit ones or 
worse 64 bit, and or using a crap decoder.  What bit rate was being 
offered with the vinyl ?  Are you using Winamp for playback?

 

Using 320 bit encoding and iTunes or Roxio decoder I really cant tell 
difference from CD quality except in slight over emphasis of base when I 
convert them myself from vinyl and that may be a fault of my Magix 
encoder.  I would expect any studio to have better encoders than I use so 
if comercial MP3s are poor I would complain/buy elsewhere.

 

J

--- On Mon, 13/9/10, fxu@ao...com <fxu@ao...com> wrote:


From: fxu@ao...com <fxu@ao...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 22:14

just bought new turntable, vinyl is the biz, so much new music still 
available on vinyl with mp3 code - perfect package, mp3's do sound shite, 
but they have their place, whatever the format if you like the sound a 
band make then you can end up loving them for a long while...rodney is 
playing i read that is a big plus...must look up old friends in bristol.
dave:)

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nick Walters <nickw@bl...co.uk>
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org>
Sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:35
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig


What he said.

 

Really looking forward to the gig and the album and I will buy the single, 
it will give me a reason to fix my turntable which has also gone west (all 
it needs is a new stylus... 90.... glarg!)

 

And I am very grateful for all your updates Chris. Sometimes unofficial 
band websites / mailing lists can get a bit picky and negative - happens 
quite a bit on the Fall forum! It's the nature of online things, if people 
are content they don't say anything, but when people are motivated to moan 
they do so. If that make sense.

 

NW2


----- Original Message ----- 

From: Paul Vearncombe 

To: Blueplanes 

Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:19 PM

Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig

 
Don't be downhearted Chris - if people are grumpy it's just because 
they're so keen to hear the new stuff.  My turntable's gone west so 
vinyl's no good to me either but never mind - it will be one of those 
songs that I only hear at gigs!
Looking forward to the gig and album!
 
PV2
 



From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:04:28 +0100
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig

Here's my tuppence worth... 

 

Altitude was released in 2006, 6 years after Cavaliers. I became involved 
with the band in August 2006 when we started laying down the first tracks 
of what would eventually become Anti-gravity. I was not involved with the 
band at all between 2000 and 2006. I'm sure Altitude was almost complete 
at various points during these 6 years and probably had about 12 different 
titles during this time. This is quite simply the way Gerard does things. 
The difference now is that since 2006 I've tried to develop communications 
between the band and their incredibly loyal fan base (although some of you 
sound like you're wavering a bit!) by overhauling the website, updating 
the myspace and starting a facebook group. As a fan of the band since 1986 
I thought I would use my privileged position to update everyone with the 
kind of information I would have liked to have received during the 6 years 
of near silence. With hindsight it may have been better not to post so many
 "here's the latest" posts on this newsgroup. Gerard does things his way. 
He will never be rushed into anything. He often changes his mind - usually 
for the better. The difference this time is that you've all been in on it. 
Most of you are bored of waiting for a new album. I feel partly 
responsible for this. It would probably have been better to have heard 
nothing for a couple of years and them just suddenly put it out.

 

These are exciting times again for The Blue Aeroplanes. The album is 
finished. You've heard that before but I can assure you Gerard sounds more 
convinced than at any time since I've been involved. It's just a matter of 
working out the best way to release it. I thought there would be a much 
more positive reaction to the news about The Fleece. It's a big deal. 
Owning The Fleece raises the profile of the band and having a "band-run" 
venue raises the profile of The Fleece.

 

I'd like to say a massive thank you to Nat Mumford for the hard work he's 
put into the single. It's gonna look great from what I've seen... and it's 
gonna sound even better!

 

I know I've said this before but Anti-gravity is a superb album. In my 
opinion way better than Altitude and 2 years less in the making. (I'm a 
glass-half-full person!)

 

How about a bit less of the grumpy old men posts and a bit more friendly 
banter eh? That's why Lisa gave up and logged off (although having a baby 
probably had a bit to do with it too!)

 

We've got a great line up planned for the launch night so it should be a 
night to remember. The first Aero's gig at The fleece since the 90's. 
Rodney's in. A few more old favourites awaiting confirmation. We've sold 
over 100 tickets already. Rocker DJ-ing. Great support bands (I love The 
Paris Riots). There's a real buzz about it in Bristol.

 

I'm excited. I just wish you lot could be (even a little bit). Maybe some 
of you are but you never post. Now's your chance!

 

Chris

 

 


On 9 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:

 


This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit. 
 
I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because i've 
been helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have 
something to add. 
 
But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is 
finished. However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to 
happen to a finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and they 
all take time.  
 
'Good luck signs' and ''When things are good' are both lyrical references 
drawn from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my guess is that 
at some point, this was intended to be on the album and when it came off, 
it no longer made as much sense to have either of those as the album 
title. 
 
I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more 
special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine 
tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger, Top 
of the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be able 
to get it in your friendly local independent record store as well. 
 
As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology 
eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet before 
you can say 'anti-gravity'. 
 
Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I will 
ring you and sing it down the phone.
 
Nat

 



Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 22:08:05 +0000
From: pasddybrownchelsea@ya...co.uk
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig


Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive' (unsurprisingly, 
it's the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....

 

Here's the link:

www.brillianceauto.com

 

p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on 
vinyl in the far-east either!! :-)

 




From: "e.h.doxtator@ac...com" <e.h.doxtator@ac...com>
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 18:48:32
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleecegig


Oh dear.

 

I all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other lossless 
format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.

 

-Doc



From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] On 
Behalf Of Patrick Brown
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:54 AM
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleece gig

 



Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i must 
say that i agree with all of them!!....


 


Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la iTunes 
@ 5 a hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).  I'd even 
offer to set it up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...


 


Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to 'Good 
Luck Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only (vinyl 
double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?


 


I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live; 
Angela Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill it 
(In fact, i recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...


 


'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?


 


Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a 
'limited life span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a 
playable format) will ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.


 


Pat


 





From: Stuart Winfield <stuart@li...co.uk>
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes <blueplanes@bl...org>
Sent: Wed, 8 September, 2010 8:35:57
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleece gig

Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business plan.


I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if  
the BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).


 


Stuart W


 


 


 


 



On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:

 

Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and 
teasing over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 Kinds 
of Love" sounded promising).  I've rather given up hope of ever hearing 
it: I live in Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you 
understand. The Blue Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their 
early years.


So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a single 
in a format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an 
album that isn't even available. Stunning! An entire  generation of 
potential fans will be rushing out to buy a record player especially. 
Granted, album releases get delayed for any number of artistic and 
non-artistic reasons, but... but... but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some 
good news!



Goadingly,


Phil


 


 



On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:

 



Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only 
Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.


 


The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here 
are few more details from Gerard: 


 



"China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel 
room at a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot charity 
ribbon on the front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to one 
person or one thing to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. Musically, 
it's from the sessions for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but 
didn't quite make the finished record due to its resemblance to the early 
Who drunkenly trying to imitate Santana. Which is great, obviously, but 
doesn't sound like anything else on the album, hence its release as a 
spiffing stand-alone single. 


 


"The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might 
have been filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman 
cassette recorder. On a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. 
Then we decided to buy a venue and became the owners of The Fleece (& 
Firkin for those with long memories) and restore it to its former glory. 
So we are playing a celebratory gig at The Fleece on October 2nd at which 
this single will be made available for the first time. And if you can find 
us, we'll sign it." 


 


We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the 2nd!


 


Nat


 



From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:33:03 +0200
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Subject: [BluePlanes] Fleece Gig PosterGet behind us.

  

    

  

     

  

    

  

    Feel free to print off and distribute if you live with 50 miles of 
Bristol...

  

    

  

     


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