Re: Details of new 7" single to be released the Fleecegig

[Anthony Raffaele <araffaele@op...net>]

I'm with Doc.  I have a similar process as most of what I listen to is
vinyl.  Everything I play gets recorded then ripped to 320 MP3s.  I do play
the raw wav files in the car, though.  Thanks for the suggestions for
tagging software.  I use MP3Tag, which is pretty good, but I'm game for
something new.  But I'm also in agreement with others where it's ultimately
all about the music.  If the music is good then you should be able to enjoy
it no matter what (within reason, of course).  So, with that. I am really
happy about the 7", but I also agree with others about the download.  
Almost
every LP released in the states comes with a code for a download, something
most (if not all) labels in the UK don't do.  Regardless of the format
offered, I will purchase BA's release.  If we don't, who will??

 

Anthony

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 9:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

 

I'm pretty sure nobodys gonna care, but I'll just say:  I am a complete
fuss-pot about my music.  I have one simple rule about music purchases:
if's it's DRMed, or source-tagged, I don't buy it.

 

I don't buy MP3's from Amazon, or M4A's from iTunes or whatever.  I buy
LP's, CD's or "clean" lossless digital music.

 

If I have physical media, I dual encode my music, wherever possible:  FLAC
and M4A.  The only change I make when I rip to FLAC is to set the
compression level to max.  Since it's lossless, I don't need to worry about
it much.  I chose FLAC over Apple's AAC lossless because FLAC is an
open-source standard, it's supported by indie labels, has no DRM there are
some audio players that support it (either natively or through the superb
Rockbox).  I play FLAC at home, where there is no background noise.

 

The M4A's I encode as 320kbps VBR I chose M4A's because there are a lot of
iPods in my house and there's nothing more disgruntled in Home Tech Support
than a family member who cannot play their music.  I play the M4A's on the
train, or in the car, where fidelity isn't quite as important.

 

For ripping, I use Illustrate's dbPoweramp:

It integrates seamlessly with Windows (I'm not crazy about the
higgledy-piggledy support for non AAC/M4A files on the Mac-I run it in a VM
on my Mac and it's fantastic)

The codec support is excellent

The rules for auto-tagging and directory creation make sense

For 29 USD, it's a lifetime license, no support fees

 

When I rip it's CD->FLAC->Tag Edit/Album Artwork->dbPoweramp convert to 
FLAC
to M4A (preserves almost all of the tags).  I move the FLAC files to the
FLAC directory on my big HD, and the M4A's to the iTunes library on the 
same
drive.

 

I haven't found a silver bullet that meets all my needs for track tagging.
For FLAC tag editing, album art manipulation, and streaming playback, I use
JRiver's Media Center.  Its tag support is superb (iTunes is a bloated,
modal nightmare, although iTunes 10 is a little better than its
predecessors).

 

For mass-tagging M4A's, dbPoweramp handles almost all the tags.  For 
missing
tags and I need to do a mass-update, I use some Python code I wrote (copies
tags and artwork from the FLAC files to the M4A) or I just use iTunes for
onezee-twozee.

 

For artwork, I usually just search the internets, but if I don't like the
image (or one isn't available), I just scan the CD cover.

 

-Doc

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 5:32 AM
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

 


If MP3s sound shite its because you are getting rubbish 128 bit ones or
worse 64 bit, and or using a crap decoder.  What bit rate was being offered
with the vinyl ?  Are you using Winamp for playback?

 

Using 320 bit encoding and iTunes or Roxio decoder I really cant tell
difference from CD quality except in slight over emphasis of base when I
convert them myself from vinyl and that may be a fault of my Magix encoder.
I would expect any studio to have better encoders than I use so if 
comercial
MP3s are poor I would complain/buy elsewhere.

 

J

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From: fxu@ao...com <fxu@ao...com>
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig
To: blueplanes@bl...org
Date: Monday, 13 September, 2010, 22:14

just bought new turntable, vinyl is the biz, so much new music still
available on vinyl with mp3 code - perfect package, mp3's do sound shite,
but they have their place, whatever the format if you like the sound a band
make then you can end up loving them for a long while...rodney is playing i
read that is a big plus...must look up old friends in bristol.
dave:)

 

 

 

 

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From: Nick Walters <nickw@bl...co.uk>
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Sent: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 18:35
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

What he said.

 

Really looking forward to the gig and the album and I will buy the single,
it will give me a reason to fix my turntable which has also gone west (all
it needs is a new stylus... 90.... glarg!)

 

And I am very grateful for all your updates Chris. Sometimes unofficial 
band
websites / mailing lists can get a bit picky and negative - happens quite a
bit on the Fall forum! It's the nature of online things, if people are
content they don't say anything, but when people are motivated to moan they
do so. If that make sense.

 

NW2

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Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 8:19 PM

Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

 

Don't be downhearted Chris - if people are grumpy it's just because they're
so keen to hear the new stuff.  My turntable's gone west so vinyl's no good
to me either but never mind - it will be one of those songs that I only 
hear
at gigs!
Looking forward to the gig and album!
 
PV2
 


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From: chris.sharp4@vi...net
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Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:04:28 +0100
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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

Here's my tuppence worth... 

 

Altitude was released in 2006, 6 years after Cavaliers. I became involved
with the band in August 2006 when we started laying down the first tracks 
of
what would eventually become Anti-gravity. I was not involved with the band
at all between 2000 and 2006. I'm sure Altitude was almost complete at
various points during these 6 years and probably had about 12 different
titles during this time. This is quite simply the way Gerard does things.
The difference now is that since 2006 I've tried to develop communications
between the band and their incredibly loyal fan base (although some of you
sound like you're wavering a bit!) by overhauling the website, updating the
myspace and starting a facebook group. As a fan of the band since 1986 I
thought I would use my privileged position to update everyone with the kind
of information I would have liked to have received during the 6 years of
near silence. With hindsight it may have been better not to post so many
"here's the latest" posts on this newsgroup. Gerard does things his way. He
will never be rushed into anything. He often changes his mind - usually for
the better. The difference this time is that you've all been in on it. Most
of you are bored of waiting for a new album. I feel partly responsible for
this. It would probably have been better to have heard nothing for a couple
of years and them just suddenly put it out.

 

These are exciting times again for The Blue Aeroplanes. The album is
finished. You've heard that before but I can assure you Gerard sounds more
convinced than at any time since I've been involved. It's just a matter of
working out the best way to release it. I thought there would be a much 
more
positive reaction to the news about The Fleece. It's a big deal. Owning The
Fleece raises the profile of the band and having a "band-run" venue raises
the profile of The Fleece.

 

I'd like to say a massive thank you to Nat Mumford for the hard work he's
put into the single. It's gonna look great from what I've seen... and it's
gonna sound even better!

 

I know I've said this before but Anti-gravity is a superb album. In my
opinion way better than Altitude and 2 years less in the making. (I'm a
glass-half-full person!)

 

How about a bit less of the grumpy old men posts and a bit more friendly
banter eh? That's why Lisa gave up and logged off (although having a baby
probably had a bit to do with it too!)

 

We've got a great line up planned for the launch night so it should be a
night to remember. The first Aero's gig at The fleece since the 90's.
Rodney's in. A few more old favourites awaiting confirmation. We've sold
over 100 tickets already. Rocker DJ-ing. Great support bands (I love The
Paris Riots). There's a real buzz about it in Bristol.

 

I'm excited. I just wish you lot could be (even a little bit). Maybe some 
of
you are but you never post. Now's your chance!

 

Chris

 

 

On 9 Sep 2010, at 12:18, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:

 


This seems to have put the cat among the pigeons a bit. 
 
I can't speak for the band - I've only really been involved because i've
been helping out in getting the 7" produced. Maybe Chris will have 
something
to add. 
 
But from where I'm standing - my understanding is that the album is
finished. However, as someone said further down, lots of things have to
happen to a finished recording before it makes it into the shops, and they
all take time.  
 
'Good luck signs' and ''When things are good' are both lyrical references
drawn from this song - China Brilliance Automotive - so my guess is that at
some point, this was intended to be on the album and when it came off, it 
no
longer made as much sense to have either of those as the album title. 
 
I think the idea of 7" only was just to make it a bit more
special/noteworthy/commemorative of the Fleece takeover. It's in a fine
tradition of one-off Aeroplanes 7" singles at gigs - Trouble/Stranger, Top
of the Pops (the A House double AA) and in due course you should be able to
get it in your friendly local independent record store as well. 
 
As matthew says, sure it will be collected onto some sort of anthology
eventually. And TBH someone will have pirated it onto the internet before
you can say 'anti-gravity'. 
 
Anyone who can't get hold of it through any of the above means, I will ring
you and sing it down the phone.
 
Nat

 


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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

Incidentally, just Googled 'China Brilliance Automotive' (unsurprisingly,
it's the name of a Chinese Car Manufacturer!!)....

 

Here's the link:

www. <http://www.brillianceauto.com/> brillianceauto.com

 

p.s. No mention on their web-site of any forthcoming Aeros' releases on
vinyl in the far-east either!! :-)

 


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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the
Fleecegig

Oh dear.

 

I all for making a version available for download. FLAC or other lossless
format preferred. Yahboosucks to MP3.

 

-Doc

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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleece
gig

 

Having read with great interest the various replies to this thread, i must
say that i agree with all of them!!....

 

Why don't they go with an mp3 download version (via web-site) a la iTunes @
5 a hit (on or after the release of the 7" vinyl jobbie?).  I'd even offer
to set it up for them (& i'm not a tecchie)...

 

Likewise, new album??...Mystified to say the least (what happened to 'Good
Luck Signs' aka 'When Things Are Good' then? Was it a USA only (vinyl
double-album) release with gatefold sleeve?

 

I assumed (having heard some new songs played last 2 or 3 times live; 
Angela
Carter/ 25 Kinds of Love etc.) there was enough material to fill it (In
fact, i recall Gerard & Max telling me 'it's the dogs'!!)...

 

'Anti-Gravity' sounds like a delay tactic to me?

 

Sorry to sound negative (but like the Glasgow man)...I only have a 'limited
life span' myself & am now wondering if any new product (in a playable
format) will ever grace my turn-table (aka CD player) again.

 

Pat

 


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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Details of new 7" single to be released the 
Fleece
gig

Further to Phil's harsh but fair description of the apparent business plan.

I don't think Gerard worries about his fan base moving on but I doubt if
the BAs will be able to establish a new audience (outside of Bristol).

 

Stuart W

 

 

 

 

On 8 Sep 2010, at 00:02, phil mason wrote:

 

Ah yes, that "forthcoming album" rumour again... Lots of description and
teasing over the last year or two, not very much music (although "25 Kinds
of Love" sounded promising).  I've rather given up hope of ever hearing it:
I live in Glasgow, so I have a very low life expectancy, you understand. 
The
Blue Aeroplanes? More like the bleedin' Blue Nile in their early years.

So, here's the business plan: organise a limited local release of a single
in a format that few people still have access to of an outtake from an 
album
that isn't even available. Stunning! An entire  generation of potential 
fans
will be rushing out to buy a record player especially. Granted, album
releases get delayed for any number of artistic and non-artistic reasons,
but... but... but... Oh, go on Chris, tell us some good news!

Goadingly,

Phil

 

 

On 7 Sep 2010, at 21:59, Nathaniel Mumford wrote:

 


Chris has already mentioned that there will be a *brand new* vinyl-only
Aeroplanes single available at the Fleece gig.

 

The title is 'China Brilliance Automotive' b/w 'My Good Self' - and here 
are
few more details from Gerard: 

 

"China Brilliance Automotive was written gazing from a Los Angeles hotel
room at a church that looked like a wedding cake with an 80-foot charity
ribbon on the front. or maybe the side. It's about being all things to one
person or one thing to everybody. Neither is likely to succeed. Musically,
it's from the sessions for the forthcoming 'Anti-Gravity' album, but didn't
quite make the finished record due to its resemblance to the early Who
drunkenly trying to imitate Santana. Which is great, obviously, but doesn't
sound like anything else on the album, hence its release as a spiffing
stand-alone single. 

 

"The b-side is a psycho-traumatic rendition of inner conflict as might have
been filmed in a spy-movie, and was recorded on a Sony Walkman cassette
recorder. On a boat. With Katie Tomlinson (17) playing violin. Then we
decided to buy a venue and became the owners of The Fleece (& Firkin for
those with long memories) and restore it to its former glory. So we are
playing a celebratory gig at The Fleece on October 2nd at which this single
will be made available for the first time. And if you can find us, we'll
sign it." 

 

We'll share the art just as soon as it's finished...See you all on the 2nd!

 

Nat

 



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