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Re: Everyone's someone and with the [cardboard box]


  • Subject: Re: Everyone's someone and with the [cardboard box]
  • From: ger053@ab...ac.uk
  • Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 18:31:42 GB

I seem to remember Gerard once saying it had something to do with the 
King's Cross fire, and stuff being kept in a cardboard box by London 
Underground - probably some MM interview from the early 90s. Anybody 
else remember that...

Simon

 I don't think I would say that Cardboard Box is about politics really. 
> Like you said, I think the CB of the title is full of what makes up a
> person.  So it's not a conspiracy theory thing or anything like that,
> it's just a metaphor for the total of somebody's life.  I'm only
> guessing really.  Somebody ask Gerard!  
> 
> As for My Hurricane - WHY have I never heard it live?  I love the
> phasing guitars at the end.  And the lyrics are some of the best but I'm
> not convinced I know exactly what it's about.  Seems to me partly like a
> cynical commentary on the state of the world today, summed up by
> "getting older and killing things is the natural order of the world". 
> It's relevant again now with America trying to fix the world's problems
> - "before Iraq and Iran there were the heathen and the Christian
> gentlemen" and "new lands with better order may have better parties".
> 
> Like the best poetry it makes you think and apply it to different
> subjects.  Like the man says - "I don't feel I know or anything, but
> even the smallest impression carries some weight". 
> 
> We should have had this discussion a few weeks ago so that PV1 could
> have asked Gerard during his interview!
> 
> PV2
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Lisa Ash 
>   To: blueplanes@st...net 
>   Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:26 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Everyone's someone and with the [cardboard
> box]
> 
> 
>   Wey hey! Blue Aeroplanes discussion! Fantastic... You don't see THAT
> every day!
> 
>   Rough Music - don't know, never played it much (Sorry Gerard and
> Paul2, can't lie to ya! For me it's a bit like the B-side of the Yellow
> Submarine album - You know you SHOULD play it, but sommin always 
makes
> you put on Revolver (Swagger!) instead! And I really do know that this
> ain't a popular opinion [honest - I REALLY do!] and I probably sound
> like I'm talking arse, but better that than trying to say why I like it
> when I don't... :) - then my CD got nicked (in BRISTOL of all places!)
> and I haven't replaced it (guess that's an answer in itself!). I know -
> tut, tut - baaaad Blue Aeroplanes fan, I shall go to my room and recite
> Dylan Thomas til morning... (And do I get an award there for most
> bracketed sentence of the year?!) I WILL replace it though and when I
> get the opportunity, will ramble on in my usual fashion about what I
> think 2nd time round (although, I gotta admit, if I'd have liked it as
> much as Beatsongs, Spitting Out Miracles and Swagger, I guess I'd 
have
> played it more in the first place, huh?)...
> 
>   Cardboard Box into My Hurricane? GENIUS!! You've just taxied gently
> down the runway with Cardboard Box, My Hurricane is the take-off! (In a
> bloody great big, mad, technicoloured Harrier!). It jets you back into
> life and I love that! (Doesn't HAVE to be in the bath by the way!). Or -
> Cardboard Box is gliding in a clear blue sky, My Hurricane is kicking
> the engines in and doing figure of 8's and free-falling ... either way,
> the thing flies!
> 
>   Is Cardboard Box really about something as mundane as politics? 
That
> would make sense and I've just played it again and that DOES make
> sense!. It was the first Blue Aeroplanes song I ever took any notice of
> (its what made me fall in love with 'em!), so maybe I'm just seeing what
> I want to see - but Death of the Author means that I will still always
> see it as someone trying to explain to another person who they are, 
what
> they see, why they see it and how it makes them feel... Thank God for
> rock n roll.
> 
>   I could draw it, paint it, sing it and send it to you...
>   Lisa
>   x
> 
> 
>   On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 09:49 pm, Drdaeve@ao...com 
wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hey Friendsloversplanes....
> 
>     Rough Music is a cracker in my 'umble op...always get a laugh out of
> Sugar'd Almond 'drest in pastels smooth & sweet, kind of good for you,
> kind of not, sugar'd almond...'
> 
>     ...best way to listen to the Blue Aeroplanes is to copy your CDs to
> your PC. I use Windows Media Player...create a playlist with all your
> Blue Aeroplanes tracks in it & set the thing to play at random,
> indefinitely...Dixons do a little lead for about a tenner...comes out of
> your speaker sockets on the PC into the back of your hi-fi. Ideal.
> 
>     I've never got to grips with Bop Art though. Bit too avante garde
> maybe. I love Bagpipe Music from the Art Objects days as much as
> anything by the BAs
> 
>     You realise, of course, that Gerard/BAs will never be appreciated
> during our lifetimes or theirs, but in centuries to come they'll be
> regarded like Van Gogh...setting the standard for rock and roll as an
> art form...by the way, my two children (g11; b9)know all the words to
> all the songs and sometimes make me cry with joy when they sing 
along in
> the motor....
> 
>     ...& does My Hurricane really 'break the mood' created by Cardboard
> Box. Beatsongs was recorded primarily for vinyl and the tracks are on
> the same side...our Greatest Living Englishman wants you to hear My
> Hurricane just after you've heard Cardboard Box.....but as wherever I am
> becomes a mosh-pit as soon as My Hurricane kicks in I avoid it when 
I'm
> in the bath....
> 
>     it's not our country we just live here
> 
>     signed under fire
> 
>     DrDx
> 
> 
> 
>   Love. Always.
>   Lisa
>   xxx
>   chipaway@th...freeserve.co.uk
> 
>   "Scorpio's obscure glory is always on parade. Many appreciate the
> spectacle, but only a few actually understand what they're seeing. This
> is an exclusive club anyway. Only visionary types need apply..."
> 
> 
> 



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