Re: Everyone's someone and with the [cardboard box]

["Paul Vearncombe" <vearn@wo...co.uk>]

I don't think I would say that Cardboard Box is about politics really.  
Like you said, I think the CB of the title is full of what makes up a 
person.  So it's not a conspiracy theory thing or anything like that, it's 
just a metaphor for the total of somebody's life.  I'm only guessing 
really.  Somebody ask Gerard!  

As for My Hurricane - WHY have I never heard it live?  I love the phasing 
guitars at the end.  And the lyrics are some of the best but I'm not 
convinced I know exactly what it's about.  Seems to me partly like a 
cynical commentary on the state of the world today, summed up by "getting 
older and killing things is the natural order of the world".  It's 
relevant again now with America trying to fix the world's problems - 
"before Iraq and Iran there were the heathen and the Christian gentlemen" 
and "new lands with better order may have better parties".

Like the best poetry it makes you think and apply it to different 
subjects.  Like the man says - "I don't feel I know or anything, but even 
the smallest impression carries some weight". 

We should have had this discussion a few weeks ago so that PV1 could have 
asked Gerard during his interview!

PV2

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Lisa Ash 
  To: blueplanes@st...net 
  Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:26 AM
  Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] Everyone's someone and with the [cardboard box]


  Wey hey! Blue Aeroplanes discussion! Fantastic... You don't see THAT 
every day!

  Rough Music - don't know, never played it much (Sorry Gerard and Paul2, 
can't lie to ya! For me it's a bit like the B-side of the Yellow Submarine 
album - You know you SHOULD play it, but sommin always makes you put on 
Revolver (Swagger!) instead! And I really do know that this ain't a 
popular opinion [honest - I REALLY do!] and I probably sound like I'm 
talking arse, but better that than trying to say why I like it when I 
don't... :) - then my CD got nicked (in BRISTOL of all places!) and I 
haven't replaced it (guess that's an answer in itself!). I know - tut, tut 
- baaaad Blue Aeroplanes fan, I shall go to my room and recite Dylan 
Thomas til morning... (And do I get an award there for most bracketed 
sentence of the year?!) I WILL replace it though and when I get the 
opportunity, will ramble on in my usual fashion about what I think 2nd 
time round (although, I gotta admit, if I'd have liked it as much as 
Beatsongs, Spitting Out Miracles and Swagger, I guess I'd have played it 
more in the first place, huh?)...

  Cardboard Box into My Hurricane? GENIUS!! You've just taxied gently down 
the runway with Cardboard Box, My Hurricane is the take-off! (In a bloody 
great big, mad, technicoloured Harrier!). It jets you back into life and I 
love that! (Doesn't HAVE to be in the bath by the way!). Or - Cardboard 
Box is gliding in a clear blue sky, My Hurricane is kicking the engines in 
and doing figure of 8's and free-falling ... either way, the thing flies!

  Is Cardboard Box really about something as mundane as politics? That 
would make sense and I've just played it again and that DOES make sense!. 
It was the first Blue Aeroplanes song I ever took any notice of (its what 
made me fall in love with 'em!), so maybe I'm just seeing what I want to 
see - but Death of the Author means that I will still always see it as 
someone trying to explain to another person who they are, what they see, 
why they see it and how it makes them feel... Thank God for rock n roll.

  I could draw it, paint it, sing it and send it to you...
  Lisa
  x


  On Wednesday, August 20, 2003, at 09:49 pm, Drdaeve@ao...com wrote:


    Hey Friendsloversplanes....

    Rough Music is a cracker in my 'umble op...always get a laugh out of 
Sugar'd Almond 'drest in pastels smooth & sweet, kind of good for you, 
kind of not, sugar'd almond...'

    ...best way to listen to the Blue Aeroplanes is to copy your CDs to 
your PC. I use Windows Media Player...create a playlist with all your Blue 
Aeroplanes tracks in it & set the thing to play at random, 
indefinitely...Dixons do a little lead for about a tenner...comes out of 
your speaker sockets on the PC into the back of your hi-fi. Ideal.

    I've never got to grips with Bop Art though. Bit too avante garde 
maybe. I love Bagpipe Music from the Art Objects days as much as anything 
by the BAs

    You realise, of course, that Gerard/BAs will never be appreciated 
during our lifetimes or theirs, but in centuries to come they'll be 
regarded like Van Gogh...setting the standard for rock and roll as an art 
form...by the way, my two children (g11; b9)know all the words to all the 
songs and sometimes make me cry with joy when they sing along in the 
motor....

    ...& does My Hurricane really 'break the mood' created by Cardboard 
Box. Beatsongs was recorded primarily for vinyl and the tracks are on the 
same side...our Greatest Living Englishman wants you to hear My Hurricane 
just after you've heard Cardboard Box.....but as wherever I am becomes a 
mosh-pit as soon as My Hurricane kicks in I avoid it when I'm in the 
bath....

    it's not our country we just live here

    signed under fire

    DrDx



  Love. Always.
  Lisa
  xxx
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  "Scorpio's obscure glory is always on parade. Many appreciate the 
spectacle, but only a few actually understand what they're seeing. This is 
an exclusive club anyway. Only visionary types need apply..."