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Re: Versions / Swagger


  • Subject: Re: Versions / Swagger
  • From: Tim Bradshaw <tfb@tf...org>
  • Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 11:43:35 +0100

This is off-topic probably (so, sorry).  I've heard this as well, and I am 
sure it is true (which is one reason I buy CDs of anything I actually 
listen to more than once still, when I can).  However it is more 
complicated than it looks, I think.  In particular people often compare 
royalties from streaming services to royalties from radio plays, and these 
are not anything like the same thing, since the radio station plays are 
multiplied by the audience of the station which can be millions of people, 
and the royalties from buying a CD cover multiple plays of that.

I think there is not a good comparison available of 
royalty-per-equivalent-thing & I'd like to see one.

Note none of this is meant to imply that I think musicians are being 
adequately paid by streaming services, let alone by the outright theft of 
music that goes on. Indeed I think that the internet is probably in the 
process of making recorded music something which it is essentially 
impossible to make money from, which is a tragedy.

--tim

On 18 Jun 2013, at 11:24, John Sutton wrote:

> Re the payments from Spotify: I went to a lecture by David Byrne 
> recently and he stated that the monthly amount he gets paid from Spotify 
> won’t buy lunch, and I guess he gets a few more plays than the Aeros.
>  
> From: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org [mailto:blueplanes-bounces@bl...org] 
> On Behalf Of Tim Bradshaw
> Sent: 18 June 2013 11:09
> To: GORDON WILHELMI; A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Versions / Swagger
>  
> On 18 Jun 2013, at 01:21, GORDON WILHELMI wrote:
> 
> 
> Never have needed to bother with 'Huh. ' And Spotify, though highly 
> recommended to me by others, is just a collection of 2nd&3rd at best 
> takes of anyone's favorite standard ; worthy, but not what the Artist 
> ultimately delivered. 
>  
> This isn't right.  Spotify just rips the CDs and streams them (or may be 
> it gets the bits from the record company, but it's the same thing, and 
> obviously there's the usual lossy compression involved in the 
> streaming).  In particular the version of Swagger they have is the 
> deluxe one, with the second CD.
>  
> I know people don't get paid much for things via Spotify/equivalent, but 
> they do get paid something which lets me listen to things I would not 
> otherwise buy (not BAs stuff, clearly) without feeling too bad.
>  
> In any case I now have the deluxe Swagger.  When I have time I'm going 
> to do some side-by-side comparisons between the various versions of 
> things I have (original vinyl Swagger, compilation, reissued Swagger 
> etc) as some of the mixes are clearly different (or my ears are giving 
> up, which is possible).
> 
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