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Re: Antigravity CD
- Subject: Re: Antigravity CD
- From: m darke <darkemichael@ta...com>
- Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 18:56:30 +0100 (BST)
I agree with this. Well said.
--- On Sat, 10/9/11, phil mason <phil@ph...net> wrote:
> From: phil mason <phil@ph...net>
> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Antigravity CD
> To: kevin@co...eclipse.co.uk, "A Discussion list for The Blue
> Aeroplanes" <blueplanes@bl...org>
> Date: Saturday, 10 September, 2011, 14:58
> Kevin,
> As far as I can tell, you are making two contradictory
> points about the worthiness of Antigravity being generally
> unavailable:
> 1) It's not about making money, because it's art
> 2) It's about making money, because the band don't earn
> anything from digital formats.
>
> I don't find either argument very compelling because:
> 1) If we can't hear it, how would know whether it's art?
> And frankly, (Yes, there are valid theories as to why it
> could be art even if no-one consumes it -- trees fall in the
> forest when there's noone around to hear, after all --
> but most of us are probably more interested in the music
> than the theory in this instance)
> 2) Neither are royalties from vinyl sales going to keep
> much food on anyone's tables.
>
> Destroying the "commercial value" seems to me a good thing
> if we are just going down the road of making things valuable
> simply because of their scarcity - either in a monetary
> sense because the artefact commands inflated prices since
> demand exceeds supply, or in an aesthetic sense because the
> technically unnecessary rarity just makes the whole venture
> stink of exclusivism. And that is in no way to suggest
> that musicians should not be getting paid for their work.
>
> Gerard is entitled to his approach, but if fetishising the
> format (rather than celebrating the music) is genuinely the
> reason why next to nobody has heard Antigravity then it's
> certainly an unusual one. I wonder what the rest of the band
> members think of it. On the other hand, it seems more likely
> to me that he simply hasn't clinched a deal with a record
> label (do we still call them that?!) or distributor that
> he's happy with, and maybe the Planes have missed the
> boat.
>
> Phil
>
> On 10 Sep 2011, at 14:07, kevin@co...eclipse.co.uk
> wrote:
>
> > But what if it's not about making money? What if it's
> art?
> >
> > What if it was available digitally, how many people
> would actually buy it? How much would the band actually
> earn? Enough to eat for a year, a month, a week? How many
> people would end up just stealing it or listening on Spotify
> for which Gerard gets 0.00000000001p each listen. It aint
> right.
> >
> > Digitalising music has destroyed its commercial
> value and I applaud Gerard for saying fuck that. If he's
> only going to get a pittance for a digital version why
> bother. Vinyl makes it precious. To be treasured. Yours. It
> sparks the imagination to wonder just how amazing the songs
> are. It resurrects the thrill of the obscure album hunt. It
> might just keep a record shop open for one more day.
> >
> > Get your record players out and groove
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ed-ward_1@ti...co.uk"
> <ed-ward_1@ti...co.uk>
> > Sender: blueplanes-bounces@bl...org
> > Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 13:08:42
> > To: <blueplanes@bl...org>
> > Reply-To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
> > <blueplanes@bl...org>
> > Subject: [BluePlanes] Antigravity CD
> >
> > Its hard to understand Gerard's marketing strategy,the
> vinyl edition
> > appears to great reviews and then silence no sign of a
> CD or download
> > version for those without turntables.Its almost a lets
> shoot ourselves
> > in the foot strategy.But then the Aeroplanes have
> always been
> > iunpredictable,I guess thats part of their charm.A
> sleeve note on HUH
> > The Best of Blue Aeroplanes 87-92 sums it up in
> describing their
> > career:"It was brilliant,it was fun so enormous it
> swallowed the
> > horizon until it became work".Enough said,Edward
> >
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