Re: BluePlanes Digest, Vol 41, Issue 1 re: the sound issue

[andynagy@co...net]

Just a note to say that if I lived anywhere near the area, Jules' note 
would never have kept me from coming to the gig, and I'm sure the majority 
of other readers would feel the same.  I would hope the kinks* would be 
eventually out of the system and the chance to see the Mekons again (after 
way too many years) and Rita and the rest... well, I can dream. If airfare 
from the US wasn't so outrageously expensive this summer, I'd gladly spend 
the whole of my vacation camped out at the venue!  (actually looked into 
the very idea last month!) 



Andy 





* always was way more into the Kinks than the Who  anyway, "Big Sky" 
rules! 




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Today's Topics: 

   1. Gig on Friday (Chris Sharp) 
   2. Re: Gig on Friday (Rockerq@ao...com) 
   3. Re: Gig on Friday (JULIAN NOBLE) 
   4. Re: Gig on Friday (Chris Sharp) 
   5. Re: Gig on Friday (JULIAN NOBLE) 


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:04:57 +0100 
From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
Subject: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
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Hi everyone 

Just a little nudge to maybe get some of you down to The Fleece on   
Friday? 

The Mekons + Gerard Starkie + Rita Lynch + The Smokestack Shakers. 

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137018899653343&index=1 

All the Aeroplanes will be there. John Langley is drumming for both   
Rita and Gerard Starkie. Starkie's band also includes former Aeros   
bassist Joe Allen and current guitarist Loki Lillistone. John also   
used to drum for The Mekons so it's all a bit incestuous really! 

In other news we are planning a massive Fleece launch night with The   
Blue Aeroplanes headlining, VIP bar, local celebs, loads of press,   
even a new single on vinyl! Full details to follow in the next few   
days... 

Cheers 

Chris 




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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 08:57:38 EDT 
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Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
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> <<The Fleece on? 
> Friday? 
> 
> The Mekons + Gerard Starkie + Rita Lynch + The Smokestack Shakers.>> 
> 
Bugger! Will be at Inditracks festival, on a steam railway in Derbyshire. 
Would love to see the Mekons - I helped put them on at The Tropic Club in 
1986! 

Looking forward to seeing real bands back at the Fleece! 

Cheers! 

Rocker 
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:01:49 +0000 (GMT) 
From: JULIAN NOBLE <jules.noble@bt...com> 
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
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If the sound levels were at the painfull level of last weeks gig I wouldnt 
bother. 
? 
Ritas wonderful songs were entirely muffled by excess bass from Johns kit 
which is hardly what they strived for. The bands before and after were so 
loud as to be painful and?almost certainly in contravention of Health & 
Safety legislation.? I listened to the first band from outside the toilets 
and the final band from outside in the street. I dont know if the sound 
engineer made a?slip in both level and microphone set up, but it needs 
addressing or even training. 
? 
I went to several perfectly good gigs recently (Prom Bar, Blue Lagoon even 
Seven Stars) where you could hear every word and not risk significant 
further deafness and still feel the pulse of the music. 
? 
Jules 
Long time Who fan, who likes it loud but clear 

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From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
Subject: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
To: "A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes" <blueplanes@bl...org> 
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 9:04 


Hi everyone 

Just a little nudge to maybe get some of you down to The Fleece on? 
Friday? 

The Mekons + Gerard Starkie + Rita Lynch + The Smokestack Shakers. 

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137018899653343&index=1 

All the Aeroplanes will be there. John Langley is drumming for both? 
Rita and Gerard Starkie. Starkie's band also includes former Aeros? 
bassist Joe Allen and current guitarist Loki Lillistone. John also? 
used to drum for The Mekons so it's all a bit incestuous really! 

In other news we are planning a massive Fleece launch night with The? 
Blue Aeroplanes headlining, VIP bar, local celebs, loads of press,? 
even a new single on vinyl! Full details to follow in the next few? 
days... 

Cheers 

Chris 


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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 16:44:15 +0100 
From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
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Nice one Jules! A public slagging no-less... 

We're trying really hard to get the Fleece back on it's feet. A good   
crowd on Friday is crucial. I take on board all your points and we   
will do our best to address them. I would have preferred it if you had   
voiced your concerns to me privately via the email address advertised   
on our website. Comments like "I wouldn't bother" addressed to a few   
hundred Blue Aeroplanes fans who would normally be quite interested in   
a gig like this are hardly going to help us. 

Hope to see you on Friday 

Cheers 

Chris 

On 20 Jul 2010, at 14:01, JULIAN NOBLE wrote: 

> If the sound levels were at the painfull level of last weeks gig I   
> wouldnt bother. 
> 
> Ritas wonderful songs were entirely muffled by excess bass from   
> Johns kit which is hardly what they strived for. The bands before   
> and after were so loud as to be painful and almost certainly in   
> contravention of Health & Safety legislation.  I listened to the   
> first band from outside the toilets and the final band from outside   
> in the street. I dont know if the sound engineer made a slip in both   
> level and microphone set up, but it needs addressing or even training. 
> 
> I went to several perfectly good gigs recently (Prom Bar, Blue   
> Lagoon even Seven Stars) where you could hear every word and not   
> risk significant further deafness and still feel the pulse of the   
> music. 
> 
> Jules 
> Long time Who fan, who likes it loud but clear 
> 
> --- On Tue, 20/7/10, Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> wrote: 
> 
> From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
> Subject: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
> To: "A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes" <blueplanes@bl...org 
> > 
> Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 9:04 
> 
> Hi everyone 
> 
> Just a little nudge to maybe get some of you down to The Fleece on 
> Friday? 
> 
> The Mekons + Gerard Starkie + Rita Lynch + The Smokestack Shakers. 
> 
> http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137018899653343&index=1 
> 
> All the Aeroplanes will be there. John Langley is drumming for both 
> Rita and Gerard Starkie. Starkie's band also includes former Aeros 
> bassist Joe Allen and current guitarist Loki Lillistone. John also 
> used to drum for The Mekons so it's all a bit incestuous really! 
> 
> In other news we are planning a massive Fleece launch night with The 
> Blue Aeroplanes headlining, VIP bar, local celebs, loads of press, 
> even a new single on vinyl! Full details to follow in the next few 
> days... 
> 
> Cheers 
> 
> Chris 
> 
> 
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Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:40:55 +0000 (GMT) 
From: JULIAN NOBLE <jules.noble@bt...com> 
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
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Quality is never automatic but a result of painful mistakes, and great 
diligence in particular in listening to complaints or being alert to 
errors. 
I was about to write serious leter of complaint to the Fleece but as you 
were recomending a gig in a venue that wasnt yet quite perfect I thought I 
would address it to the fans who in my opinion might have more influence 
etc etc. 

A good sound engineer would help or perhaps a longer soundcheck after the 
room filled or didnt fill.? Perhaps the next gig will be fine. I can hear 
Rita in The Plough or the Junction which have fine sound but it would be 
embarrassing to me if I couldnt hear my favorite bands in their own venue, 
and upsetting if my freinds and lovers refused to accompany me because 
noise level is actually painful. 

I hope attendees enjoy the next gig. 

J 



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From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
To: "A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes" <blueplanes@bl...org> 
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 16:44 

Nice one Jules! A public slagging no-less... 
We're trying really hard to get the Fleece back on it's feet. A good crowd 
on Friday is crucial. I take on board all your points and we will do our 
best to address them. I would have preferred it if you had voiced your 
concerns to me privately via the email address advertised on our website. 
Comments like "I wouldn't bother" addressed to a few hundred Blue 
Aeroplanes fans who would normally be quite interested in a gig like this 
are 
 hardly going to help us. 
Hope to see you on Friday 
Cheers 
Chris 
On 20 Jul 2010, at 14:01, JULIAN NOBLE wrote: 
If the sound levels were at the painfull level of last weeks gig I wouldnt 
bother. ? Ritas wonderful songs were entirely muffled by excess bass from 
Johns kit which is hardly what they strived for. 
 The bands before and after were so loud as to be painful and?almost 
certainly in contravention of Health & Safety legislation.? I listened to 
the first band from outside the toilets and the final band from outside in 
the street. I dont know if the sound engineer made a?slip in both level 
and microphone set up, but it needs addressing or even training.  ? I went 
to several perfectly good gigs recently (Prom Bar, Blue Lagoon even Seven 
Stars) where you could hear every word and not risk significant further 
deafness and still feel the pulse of the music. ? Jules Long time Who fan, 
who likes it loud but clear 

--- On Tue, 20/7/10, Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> wrote: 
  
From: Chris Sharp <chris.sharp4@vi...net> 
Subject: [BluePlanes] Gig on Friday 
To: "A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes" <blueplanes@bl...org> 
Date: Tuesday, 20 July, 2010, 9:04 

 Hi everyone 

Just a little nudge to maybe get some of you down to The Fleece on? 
Friday? 

The Mekons + Gerard Starkie + Rita Lynch + The Smokestack Shakers. 

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137018899653343&index=1 

All the Aeroplanes will 
 be there. John Langley is drumming for both? 
Rita and Gerard Starkie. Starkie's band also includes former Aeros? 
bassist Joe Allen and current guitarist Loki Lillistone. John also? 
used to drum for The Mekons so it's all a bit incestuous really! 

In other news we are planning a massive Fleece launch night with The? 
Blue Aeroplanes headlining, VIP bar, local celebs, loads of press,? 
even a new single on vinyl! Full details to follow in the next few? 
days... 

Cheers 

Chris 


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