Harvester

[john at creativeict.co.uk (john at creativeict.co.uk)]

I didn't actually diss Harvester, what I said was that the songs were a bit
dodgy. There are some good Aeroplane tracks on it, but frankly some of the
songs are best left in the seventies where they belong. 

I too was growing up in the seventies, but I have to say that most of the
rock (Rainbow, Deep Purple et al) left me cold, as did virtually all of the
prog rock: Yes/Genesis/Floyd. Punk rock arrived just in the nick of time as
far as I was concerned.

John

-----Original Message-----
From: Trevor [mailto:boyds56 at tiscali.co.uk] 
Sent: 09 June 2007 09:48
To: A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes
Cc: john at creativeict.co.uk
Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Harvester

I have to agree with you Gord - I'm 48 right so the 70's was my era  
and let's face it everyone thinks their era was the best BUT the 70's  
were fantastic.  I can't believe that at the turn of the 70's I was  
lucky enough to see Genesis, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, Horslips et  
al then in the mid 70's Roxy, Cockney Rebel, Be Bop Deluxe and then  
the Pistols, Clash, The Only Ones, Wire at the tail end. What a  
fuckin decade!

I don't get this dising of the Harvester album. I think it's great -  
the band sound really tight (check out the the bass playing) - it  
sounds live and fresh and great production.  Nice one Gerard.  The  
only track hat doesn't work so well in an Aeros context  is the  
Barclay james Harvest one.  What about a Roy harper song as well eh  
Gerard?

Can't have it all though eh?  Seeing The Only Ones tonight after  
seeing them last week in Manchester - what a band!

Oh. and while we are name dropping great bands - don't forget The  
Church eh?

Trev


On 9 Jun 2007, at 01:50, gordon wrote:

>   Now that IS harsh.
>   The Seventies music scene represented just about the most diverse  
> period
> in popular music the World has ever seen.
>   Even taking into account the availability of 'World Music' today,  
> a lot of
> the rest of the one paced wonders doing the rounds now are a sad  
> immitation
> of the real thing. Even Gerard, I'm sure, doffs a respectful hat  
> now and
> again to the wonderful experimentation of the time.
>   Even the record companies had a vague inkling of the spirit.
>   Was it all good ?
>   Of course not.
>   But very little of it was dodgy by comparison with some of the  
> sh*t we are
> fed today.
>   'Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Old Oak Tree' versus saturday  
> night panel
> wonders and boy band reunions ( fer chrissakes ! ) perhaps.
>   The underground was truly that, and what didn't suit the next  
> generation
> of tostesterone fuelled museos spawned the counter revolution  
> within the
> same decade, in '77, surely.
>
>   Ho Hum....
>
>   G
>
>   PS  Sorry I called you Shirley.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: <john at creativeict.co.uk>
>   To: "'A Discussion list for The Blue Aeroplanes'"
> <blueplanes at blueaeroplanes.org>
>   Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 12:01 PM
>   Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Harvester
>
>
>> I think what it proves above all else is that the seventies was  
>> full of
>> dodgy bands and even dodgier songwriting.
>>
>> John
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: blueplanes-bounces at blueaeroplanes.org
>> [mailto:blueplanes-bounces at blueaeroplanes.org] On Behalf Of Phill
> Merchant
>> Sent: 07 June 2007 11:26
>> To: blueplanes at blueaeroplanes.org
>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Harvester
>>
>> I also believe the comments to be harsh but, having not actually  
>> heard
> the
>> album yet, probably from a more theoretical point of view.
>> Aren't all cover versions (debatably) worse than the originals, in  
>> the
> same
>> way that all movie adaptations are worse than the original book?  
>> Well,
> your
>> position probably depends on which you were exposed to first, and
> whether
>> you really liked it. You want examples? I loved the Blue Aeroplanes'
> version
>>
>> of "Sweet Jane", but had not heard the Velvets version at that  
>> time. I
>> played it to a friend who loved the Velvets in an attempt to  
>> introduce
> him
>> to the Aeroplanes and he hated it. Probably put him off Gerard &  
>> co for
>> life. Following the same rule I loved Aeroplanes versions of "Big  
>> Sky",
> "I
>> Wanna Be Your Lover", "Breaking In My Heart", but was left cold by  
>> "Bad
> Moon
>>
>> Rising" and "The Boy In The Bubble". The exception to the rule is  
>> where
> the
>> cover version is dramatically different to the original - but, in
> general,
>> Blue Aeroplanes covers have not been this - usually turning out to be
>> stripped-down versions of the originals, with maybe a couple more
> guitars
>> and Gerard's inimitable delivery.
>> What I want to know (especially as I am not familiar with most of the
>> original versions) is - is there a departure from this trend with the
> covers
>>
>> on this album? What does someone unfamiliar with the originals  
>> think? If
>> Gerard had written all the songs would this be a great album? Why  
>> aren't
> I
>> hard at work instead of writing this....? Ooops.
>>
>>                                          Phill...........
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Rockerq at aol.com
>>> Reply-To: A Discussion list for The Blue
>>> Aeroplanes<blueplanes at blueaeroplanes.org>
>>> To: blueplanes at blueaeroplanes.org
>>> Subject: Re: [BluePlanes] Harvester
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 18:58:24 EDT
>>>
>>>> <<I can only conclude that EMI are planning that having heard these
>>>> versions we'll all go on to iTunes and download at the new special
> price
>>
>>> of 99p (for
>>>> tracks that aren't quite as ridiculously compressed as before) the
> whole
>>>> caboodle by the original artists.
>>>> Surely every track on the new album sounds worse than the original?
>>> What is
>>>> going on?>>
>>>>
>>> Bit harsh there mate.
>>>>
>>
>>
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