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Date: 19 Sep 2006 01:40:36 -0700
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Blueplanes Digest, Vol 12, Issue 26 (Rockerq@ao...com)
2. RE: Re: Blueplanes Digest, Vol 12, Issue 26 (Paul Vallis)
3. Re: RA (gordon)
4. bop art (gareth james)
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:05:27 EDT
From: Rockerq@ao...com
Subject: [Blueplanes] Re: Blueplanes Digest, Vol 12, Issue 26
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> <<(I can't vouch for Bop Art as unfortunately I have never heard it but
as
> I remember comments on here a good while ago, the general concensus is
"don't
> bother"?).>>
>
Hey! Never believe what you read on the internet! Bop Art is a fantastic LP
-
Control Of Embassies, Gunning The Works and Built In A Day are some of
the
BAs finest works and for a long time were the mainstay of their live set -
in
the days when there were 10 or 11 bodies crammed onto a tiny stage annoying
Henry the PA guy by randomly wandering on and offstage swapping instruments
(and
playing rather randomly too!) That polythene slashing Beefheart meets The
Fall
organized chaos was augmented by Bristol's first hiphop DJ dropping samples
into the gaps between "songs" so there was literally never a dull moment
and
you never knew what was coming next!
I always preferred that LP over "Tolerance", imo it was only surpassed when
they became a "proper" rock band for "Swagger" a few years later! (Not that
Tolerance is a poor LP by any standards! ...he added quickly)
Cheers!
Rocker
PS Don't get me started on the "Bagpipe Music" LP - now there's a hidden
classic waiting to be rediscovered!
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 23:37:25 +0000
From: "Paul Vallis" <paulvallis@ho...com>
Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Re: Blueplanes Digest, Vol 12, Issue 26
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Rocker:
PS Don't get me started on the "Bagpipe Music" LP - now there's a hidden
classic waiting to be rediscovered!
Me:
I shall find out very soon! Just bought a copy on Ebay. Looking forward
to
its arrival!
PV1
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 01:08:04 +0100
From: "gordon" <dwilhelmi@ti...co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
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Don't suppose we could cover punting up to the Tyne in the Thekla, a few
serenades riverside ?
I could do the lights and backing vocals.
Yeah, miss you Lisa.
G
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From: chris sharp
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
Lisa's moved to Newcastle. She's staying at her parents place for a
while and they have no internet connection and her laptop is in for repair
so she's kind of out of the picture for a while. I'm sure she'll bounce
back soon enough!
On Sep 18, 2006, at 20:40, Nigel Mackerras wrote:
Sorry for not saying I love RA's voice, but he wrires great tunes
and plays beautiful guitar. When I met the 'planes in '88 he was a really
nice bloke and gave me a beer from the rider. Oh to be young and seeing
them on the Friendloverplane tour again!
As to early/arty compared with pop/big sound, I like both for
different reasons. The sparse ghost town feel of 'Built in a Day' for one
mood and the blow you away dancability of '...And Stones' for another.
I'm not allowed to write songs, I'm a drummer. Well except for the
stuff I co-wrote in Jameson but only Peel seemed to like that.
Any date for Xmas gig, and where's Lisa?
Nige x
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From: "Neville Street" <nevstreet@ho...com>
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 17:42:03 +0100
Whoops! For 'bought' read 'brought'.
Neville
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From: Neville Street
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
Well folks. Am I sorry that I bought this up? Frankly no! We all
love this band - period. And it's because we love 'em that we can say this
stuff. And Mark J good point about the LPs prior to Swagger. And Mark Helm
good point about Nick Jacobs. I thought he was great when I first saw the
BAs in '84. OK so they were arty but they weren't shambolic - these people
could really play (and still can!).
I'd love 'em to go back to one long set with John Stapleton
playing tapes 'n stuff in between songs and members swapping instruments.
It's how I remember them at their most creative. In fact my second band's
first gig started out behind a big sheet of plastic with me ranting poetry
- such was the influence ten years later. So consequently I wasn't
enamoured by the so called 'pop' move and line-up changes but hey bands
progress and it's not like they churned out rubbish. Shall I go on..? Nah!
Let's save it for the Xmas gig.
Mark J whereabouts in Shropshire do you live? I'm in Shrewsbury.
Credit to Steve Thomas for setting up this list - thanks fella
it's great fun!
Neville
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From: Mark
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
Oh Bugger!
It looks like the bold two who dared to 'come out' about their
true feelings about Rodders' overall contribution to the mighty 'planes are
well and truly in da doghouse innit!
We must remember that the planes were in existance as a great
band well before Swagger 'n Beatsongs. Good albums they both are but they
are also the most straightforward musically - a move away from some of the
more outlandish stuff of previous - folk instruments and all. [Yes - the
word 'folk' would normally make us indie kids run a mile but I think the
planes used such instruments to good effect]. The planes had already given
us four albums before Swagger. At least three of them excellent (I can't
vouch for Bop Art as unfortunately I have never heard it but as I remember
comments on here a good while ago, the general concensus is "don't
bother"?).
I guess I'm lucky insomuch as I first heard the 'planes around
'87/'88 on Radio 1 in the evening with stuff like 'Cowardice and Caprice'
and 'Coats' and was rather taken by them. Jog my memory: was it that
sweetie Janice Long or cuddly Liz Kershaw?!
Anyway, I'm not dissing RA myself, just saying I'm not too hot
on his stuff.
Yours,
Mark J in Shropshire.
Can't write songs for toffee, but not bad on the oche with
three darts!
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:37:17 +0100 (BST)
From: gareth james <gtbcomps@ya...co.uk>
Subject: [Blueplanes] bop art
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Abi,
you should be able to find a double cd of this and tolerence.
They turn up on ebay quite often.
Of course if you already have tolernce dosn't make the deal so good!!
gtb
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