----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
Well folks. Am I sorry that I bought this up? Frankly no! We all love this band - period. And it's because we love 'em that we can say this stuff. And Mark J good point about the LPs prior to Swagger. And Mark Helm good point about Nick Jacobs. I thought he was great when I first saw the BAs in '84. OK so they were arty but they weren't shambolic - these people could really play (and still can!).
I'd love 'em to go back to one long set with John Stapleton playing tapes 'n stuff in between songs and members swapping instruments. It's how I remember them at their most creative. In fact my second band's first gig started out behind a big sheet of plastic with me ranting poetry - such was the influence ten years later. So consequently I wasn't enamoured by the so called 'pop' move and line-up changes but hey bands progress and it's not like they churned out rubbish. Shall I go on..? Nah! Let's save it for the Xmas gig.
Mark J whereabouts in Shropshire do you live? I'm in Shrewsbury.
Credit to Steve Thomas for setting up this list - thanks fella it's great fun!
Neville
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] RA
Oh Bugger!
It looks like the bold two who dared to 'come out' about their true feelings about Rodders' overall contribution to the mighty 'planes are well and truly in da doghouse innit!
We must remember that the planes were in existance as a great band well before Swagger 'n Beatsongs. Good albums they both are but they are also the most straightforward musically - a move away from some of the more outlandish stuff of previous - folk instruments and all. [Yes - the word 'folk' would normally make us indie kids run a mile but I think the planes used such instruments to good effect]. The planes had already given us four albums before Swagger. At least three of them excellent (I can't vouch for Bop Art as unfortunately I have never heard it but as I remember comments on here a good while ago, the general concensus is "don't bother"?).
I guess I'm lucky insomuch as I first heard the 'planes around '87/'88 on Radio 1 in the evening with stuff like 'Cowardice and Caprice' and 'Coats' and was rather taken by them. Jog my memory: was it that sweetie Janice Long or cuddly Liz Kershaw?!
Anyway, I'm not dissing RA myself, just saying I'm not too hot on his stuff.
Yours,
Mark J in Shropshire.
Can't write songs for toffee, but not bad on the oche with three darts!
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