Swagger is copy protected?

["Steve Thomas" <planesmail@st...net>]

>> grumbling over Swagger Deluxe being copy-protected or
>> am I the only grumpy old bugger with an mp3 player?

What's this? How did I miss that? What kind of copy protection does it
have? Certainly not one that can't be defeated.

I'm all for protecting one's IP, but I FLAT OUT REFUSE to buy anything
that requires me to install special software (that almost certainly only
works with one or maybe two operating systems) on my computer to play it.
Figure out another way.

The only "standard" CD player I have is in my car - everything else is PC
based, including my entertainment center, and I WILL NOT unnecessarily
install anything on that machine. Even the player in my car hardly ever
gets used anymore, what with satellite radio and my mp3s (all of which are
LEGAL by the way).

EMI (et al)? Are you listening? Are you hearing us? You're punishing the
law abiding without having ANY impact on the criminals, and you're doing
it while compromising the integrity of our computers - not something most
people would appreciate much, and downright insulting to us techie types.

I'm a die-hard Aeros fan, but I don't think I can buy this re-release new.
Being that it's a UK release, I'd already be paying too much for it, and
if it's got some kind of software based copy protection, it's simply out
of the question.

If Altitude is the same (and I have no reason to suspect that it won't
be), then I'll probably have to skip that one, too, and pick them both up
in a used CD shop in a year or two. I simply won't pay a premium for
something that doesn't work as I expect and requires me to install
software that I don't want, and I NEVER WILL.

</rant>

Now that that's over, I'd like to suggest to EMI and the others that what
needs to happen is for a new medium to be developed that has protection
built in from the ground up. You can't take an existing medium with a well
defined standard and an extremely wide existing consumer base and just
tack on some fruitless attempt at copy protection. It doesn't work, and it
only serves to piss off the people who are actually paying for your
product.

I hear the record companies moaning constantly about how their sales are
dropping, and they're blaming it on the Internet. I won't argue that the
Internet could have something to do with it, but if what I read is true
(and I'm going to look into it further), then you just lost two sales
right here - probably half the CDs I will buy/would have bought all year -
*because* of your feeble attempt at protecting the content. Food for
thought.

St-



> I missed it too. I very nearly sent the "CD" back when I
> found it wouldn't play straightforwardly on my PC and
> I certainly don't appreciate music companies trying to
> put their software on my PCs.
>
> I don't understand why the music companies want to
> piss off people who want to give them money. Let's see:
>
> Option 1 - spend money to buy CD, can't play CD on
>                computer, can't play CD in car, get unwanted
>                software on PC undermining PC security
>
> Option 2 - go to net, download the mp3s, burn CD
>                all done
>
> Sounds like the music companies don't want to sell
> CDs to me......
>
> And why did EMI pick on the Aeroplanes? I've checked
> the stack of CDs next to this PC and the only one out
> of Bush/Ariel, Aeroplanes/Life, Franz/You, Polwart/Faultlines,
> Amplifico/Hometakes, Hollow Horse/Beggarstown, Gilmour/Island,
> Dury/Panties, Young/Greatest, Costello/Forces, Gadgets/Dreamer,
> and Aeroplanes/Swagger  that is "copy protected" is Swagger.
> (Actually, Gadgets Ga Ga "Dreamer" wont play on my hi-fi as the
> disk is a funny size but plays just fine in the PC).
>
> Anyhow, I've got a long flight on Saturday and I'm looking
> forward to listening to whole of Swagger a couple of times
> on my mp3 player.
>
> Roger
> --
> Roger Shepherd rog@rc...net
>
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