Re: *sigh*

["gordon" <dwilhelmi@ti...co.uk>]

  A website would be fine Lisa, and I can't think of anybody better suited 
to getting it there.
  I doubt it would get as many hits as what we alredy have, courtesy of 
Steve Thomas, but that's from a guy who bet Everton would beat Chelsea 
last week !
  Also, you should look to the example of Nora's site.
  I don't reckon any of us are any more or less nutty about BAs than Nora 
is, and a lot of love must have gone into a site that many of us on this 
site have aloud to lapse.
  Dunno what political infighting is involvlved in that, don't want to 
know. 
  I have no axe to grind here. I may or may not have bought a Weird Shit 
tape from Nora at the London Fiddler,( Nora ? ) but otherwise am not 
aquainted.
  It wasn't as easy to real off the kind of banter on that site as what 
has occured on this the last week.
  That's not being picky picky picky, just lazy.
  For instance, is or is there not a rumour going round that Gerard et al 
are going to play a set of bluegrass music at the Fiddlers ?
  I mean I'm cool with that ; one of my best mates has a cousin that lives 
near the top of Blueberry Hill.
  A gradually unfolding memoir of the Blue Aeroplanes would be a great 
feature of a site , written by those who have been there.
  Richard Bells' three parter awhile back was everything we'd want it to 
be; concise, honest, self effacing and a terrific read.
  If we could cajole people like Nick Jacobs, Max Noble, Angelo,Wojtek and 
uncle Tom Cobbly and all into believing that we would really like to read 
it, we'd be forming an archive of material every bit as important to us as 
another re issue of a Beatles Song Book.
  I still get back to Nora though, and the very real demands of Supply and 
Demand ; no good throwing the rattle out when the pisstakers come knocking.
  Enough cliches ? Enough Negativity ?

  OK enough then, when you starting it ?

  Gordon
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Lisa Ash 
    To: The Blue Aeroplanes Mailing List 
    Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 7:45 AM
    Subject: [Blueplanes] *sigh*


    Eh?

    Okay, it's time this was said... coz frankly, I've had enough!

    I report back to you lot everything I hear about what's going on with 
Gerard/the band/albums/gigs etc. because I assume people would like to 
know. I've been posting here for a number of years and when I first 
joined, kept stuff to myself purely because I didn't want to be seen as 
some pretentious little twat, loud-mouthing and lording it about, saying 
that I'm a good friend of Gerard Langley and in some twisted way, coming 
across as 'showing off' or something. Bristol is a small place, I am sure 
I am not the only one here who talks to the man! I do however seem to be 
the only person here doing my best to keep people up to date by either 
clarifying or dispelling rumours for you all. Rumours that, in fact, grow 
and spiral the longer they get talked about here. Maybe you all like 
playing the guessing game, if so, let me know and I'll crawl back into my 
hole. I actually do pass on stuff that I read here and try my best to get 
answers for you because Gerard doesn't ever read this and to be honest, 
I'm not entirely sure he'd reply even if he did!

    If, by any chance or for any reason whatsoever people would like me to 
just keep any news that I have to myself, then really, just let me know! I 
have a million things I could be doing rather than grilling my mate about 
stuff to do with 'work' when actually, all either of us wanna do is have a 
pint and watch the girls go by! I'm happy to carry on reporting back too, 
but you know what - I would rather not bother if there are gonna be 
certain people who are constantly questioning what I'm telling you... 
which is only, after all, what I get told, otherwise how the hell would I 
know and why would I care! I don't make it up! 

    Bruce, I have no idea what you really meant by the "I dont care. We 
don't care" line - perhaps it's a line from a BA's song that I haven't 
heard because *shock! Horror!* I prefer the popular stuff (Ooooh, shame on 
me!). If it is, then I still make no apologies because the choice of words 
was, frankly, in my opinion, a virtual V-sign directly related to my last 
post. 

    PV1 - I have no idea either what you meant by "I'm not sure how 
disengenious he was being"... But to that I'll say this: The Blue 
Aeroplanes have, in one guise or another played at the Fiddlers in 
December for years and years. So yes, actually it is ENTIRELY possible 
that the booking is ongoing and that Gerard didn't know the exact date 
until last week. The EMI deal isn't finalised, as I said, so I can't tell 
you anything more about that and yes, when you've been offered a big deal 
from a major record company, I expect it IS difficult to ignore... The 
BA's are a long way from getting up on stage with Michael Stipe or driving 
around LA in the back of a limo with the Pixies!

    Right. I feel better now. Slightly less insulted and ready for my 
Sunday breakfast (yes, I was lying in bed thinking about this!). No doubt 
I've pissed someone off, but I'm sick of sitting here in the comfort of my 
own home, feeling patronised and accused.

    Finally, there are plans for a website. I, hopefully will be writing 
for it. Something I'm very nervous, yet very excited about doing because, 
like all of us here, I love the Blue Aeroplanes. How popular it'll be(??!) 
depends on us, which is why I thought it was a good idea to ask for 
suggestions. Again, if this came across as anything other than a tit-bit 
of exciting good news, then let me know and I'll just get on with it 
quietly and in my own time.

    Thanks for listening.
    Lis
    x





    On 23 Oct 2005, at 00:59, Bruce Smith wrote:

    I don't care. We don't care.

    Me and the missus have a hotel booked, and will be in Bristol that 
night.
    If the Aeros's play, too - perfect.

    Pick a card, any card.............

    Bruce (wrong).




    --- Lisa Ash <chipaway@th...freeserve.co.uk> wrote:


      People, people, people, calm y'selves!

      Spoke to Gerard (he only found out he was playing on 2nd December 
last 

      week! I was like, "Yeah? And?") who has assured me that it will be 
      dealt with. Probably gonna be the usual for tickets (£10ish?) and as 
      for the bouncers... Last time I went it was an old bird taking the 
      money and a rather bedraggled beardy bloke on the door! (The owners 
I 

      think!)

      I don't mean to be a teasing little tart, but there's also some 
      possible news about a record deal with EMI which I'm under strict 
      instruction not to mentio... Oh.

      Will update you all as and when I know anything. In the meantime, a 
      question!

      Q: IF there was a website again, what kinda stuff would you like on 
it?

      All the usual discographies and shit, but what about Forums? A Chat 

      room? That kind of thing... All and any suggestions would be most 
      gratefully received and hopefully accomodated. I like the idea of it 
      being very interactive with 'us' being able to suggest and improve 
as 
      it grows - anyone know how that could become a reality? (I'm a good 
      writer, but the actual fundementals of webness alludes me!) So, what 
      would you like to see?

      Back soon!
      Lis
      x



      On 21 Oct 2005, at 11:41, gordon wrote:

      Me too. Maybe we should all write to the Mayor of Bristol, you know,
      explain our vexation ?
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <philip_rush@ye...fsnet.co.uk>
      To: "The Blue Aeroplanes Mailing List" <blueplanes@st...net>
      Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 9:39 AM
      Subject: RE: [Blueplanes] Blue Aeroplanes @ Fiddlers



        Idiot seems a bit strong!

        I'm left with vague misgivings about the absence of ticket prices

      ....




          Message Received: Oct 21 2005, 08:58 AM
          From: "David Hanson" <david_and_sarah@ho...com>
          To: blueplanes@st...net
          Cc:
          Subject: [Blueplanes] Blue Aeroplanes @ Fiddlers

          Ok,

          I'm an idiot :-)

          I was looking at this:

          http://www.ents24.com/web/venue/1203/Bristol/Fiddlers_Club.html

          Not the actual Fiddlers Club website.

          Thanks for the info - hopefully I'll make it on Dec 2nd!

          Davros.



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