The Blue Aeroplanes Mailing List - Re: following on from what edward said

I think when people whinge about Cavaliers its usually about the 2nd CD, not the first. The first is very short, and the whole package could probably have been shoehorned onto a single CD, but I think that Cavaliers was seen as a separate piece of work to be listened to on its own. It evidently started life as a track destined for this currently unreleased album that we've been going on about, but it expanded into something that was too big and that didn't really fit in any more, so Gerard released it separately. I could do with giving it another listen, I must admit. But some of CD2 was, in my humble, not releasable quality.

"Some pub near the docks" sounds like the Fleece. Can't recall ever seeing them there with Dawn & Baz, but I know I missed at least one Fleece gig in recent years.

Gerard set up (with someone else, I believe) the Artstar Record label and released Record Player and the Radon Daughters "Glow" (which is very good indeed), so why he doesn't bring it out on that label and just sort out a distribution deal I don't know. Maybe needing a bit more to finance it than he has at his disposal. Having chatted with ex-plane Hazel Winter about her new album, for which she set up her own record company, it ain't easy and it ain't all that cheap either, although at least with the Aeroplanes there is a bit of history and goodwill attached to the name, which would help oil the wheels of publicity.

The recording has been done in dribs and drabs over the past 5 or so years I think, so I would assume that its been paid for as its been done, but there could be outstanding debts too.

PV1

From: Philip Rush

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Subject: Re: [Blueplanes] following on from what edward said

Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:01:06 +0000

Well, in my opinion 'Cavaliers' is one of the best things they've done: nice collage effect, good singing, good guitar playing, interesting lyrics. Good stuff. And surely it's well enough recorded. Not sure about the second disc there, though, which is a bit sketchy. Isn't it?

"Cavaliers' itself though, as I say, is ace. I love that kind of linking of material, and the last track is really very beautiful.

Saw the Blue Aeroplanes with the Larder sisters in some pub near the docks some years ago and the material was definitely different from the more recent greatest hits packages. I also quite liked the anti-pretty stage presence.

Although I know nothing about releasing material and record companies, I do know that CDs themselves are very cheap and that 'burning' them can be done in short, sharp bursts. Gone are the days of 'masters' and disc-cutting. Therefore I really don't understand why an outfit like the BAs can't produce an edition of maybe a thousand themselves (I mean 1000 CDs at 30p each (plus copying) is surely a sound investment when you can sell them for £12). Am I missing something here? Is there some huge recording debt that someone wants cleared?

Surely the quick sales of so many CDs by the band themselves might prompt a small label to go for it. I don't know. It just seems odd that you make an album and then don't let anyone hear it. That is odd, isn't it?

Philip the Fifth

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